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Clinton balked at Sudan offer to arrest bin Laden
Washington Post via DallasNews.com ^ | 10/03/2001 | Barton Gellman

Posted on 10/03/2001 1:49:22 AM PDT by CommiesOut

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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For full article click this Washington Post link--------> U.S. Was Foiled Multiple Times in Efforts To Capture Bin Laden or Have Him Killed
1 posted on 10/03/2001 1:49:22 AM PDT by CommiesOut
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CIA Trained Pakistanis to Nab Terrorist But Military Coup Put an End to 1999 Plot (washingtonpost.com), By Bob Woodward and Thomas E. Ricks
2 posted on 10/03/2001 1:55:58 AM PDT by CommiesOut
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To: CommiesOut
Gore said Clinton was one the greatest President the U.S ever had...

Hmmmmmm. RATS SCREWED US ALL>

3 posted on 10/03/2001 1:58:41 AM PDT by KQQL
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Panel faults spy agencies

Committee urges overhaul, inquiry into Sept. 11 attacks

10/03/2001 .... http://www.dallasnews.com/attack_on_america/investigation/stories/486622_intel_03nat.AR.html ...... NYTimes via DallasNews.com

New York Times News Service

WASHINGTON – The House committee that oversees the nation's intelligence agencies has called for far-reaching changes in intelligence operations. It also wants an independent investigation into why the government did not foresee or prevent the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington.

The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, in a report accompanying a classified intelligence bill expected to be taken up by the House this week, says it is urgent to address the "many critical problems" facing the intelligence agencies.

The bill, approved by the committee late last week, would create an independent 10-member commission to study the preparedness and performance of many federal agencies during and after the Sept. 11 strikes. It would also increase the roughly $30 billion intelligence budget, although the exact amounts are classified.

The committee calls for a "cultural revolution" inside such agencies as the CIA and FBI and a thorough review of the nation's national security structures.

The committee's bill would rescind CIA Director George Tenet's 1995 restrictions on the CIA's use of unsavory covert agents and instructs him to write new guidelines. It speaks of a "culture of risk aversion" and says the 1995 guidelines "have had a negative impact on the recruitment of sources against terrorist organizations."

Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla., who is chairman of the intelligence committee and is a former CIA case officer, said he is a strong supporter of Mr. Tenet and that he leaned against establishing an independent commission at this time.

Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., the ranking Democrat on the committee, said: "The point is not to point blame or point fingers. The point is to see where the weaknesses are in our system."

The criticism of the CIA has been muted since Sept. 11, with only Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, the ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, calling for Mr. Tenet's resignation. The Bush administration has rallied behind Mr. Tenet, and many lawmakers say it isn't the time to remove him or to run an investigation that could distract agencies that should be focused on preventing further attacks.

The commission would be appointed by the president and congressional leaders and would examine the performance of many federal agencies responsible for public safety, law enforcement, national security and intelligence gathering. It would have subpoena powers and would report back six months after its formation.

President Bush has already ordered internal reviews of intelligence gathering. But the committee said that "if history serves, however, no substantive changes will occur after these reviews are complete."

The Senate passed its own intelligence measure before Sept. 11, and it was not clear where it would stand on creating a commission. Senior lawmakers on the Senate Intelligence Committee have also called for a new look at the nation's intelligence apparatus.

Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga.. said he was considering whether to offer an amendment to lift the 25-year ban on using covert agents to assassinate foreign leaders. The ban was enacted by executive order.

The committee recommended that intelligence agencies offer bonuses for language proficiency and that they consider creating their own language school. The committee also said that the nation needed to increase its front-line field officers, clandestine case officers and defense attaches.

It said a "fresh look" should be taken at restructuring the CIA and other intelligence agencies to create a separate clandestine service, splitting the directorate of covert operations out of the CIA.

4 posted on 10/03/2001 2:00:19 AM PDT by CommiesOut
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To: CommiesOut
Good articles. Now, we know to follow the money trail back to the DNC contributions. I'd look at the American contingent of the Bin Laden family & their "corporate" contributions.

Then, if that holds up, ask how the party lines got crossed that Bush's guys got them and their money out of the country.

No accusations; just damned curious at this point.
5 posted on 10/03/2001 2:06:47 AM PDT by SKYDRIFTER
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To: SKYDRIFTER
This is typical the half truthts lie technique. The lie is that Sudan offer to arrest bin Laden.
ou shoud start seeing beyond the smoke left after the attack to the aspirin factory ...
6 posted on 10/03/2001 2:10:17 AM PDT by Milosevic2
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To: CommiesOut
"Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept Mr. bin Laden..."

Why weren't the Saudis willing to take him?

7 posted on 10/03/2001 2:13:48 AM PDT by liberallarry
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U.S. deploys combat troops to former Soviet republics

10/03/2001 .... http://www.dallasnews.com/attack_on_america/response/stories/486649_troops_03nat.A.html .... More, see WashingtonPost.com

Washington Post

WASHINGTON – The Army's 10th Mountain Division sent more than 1,000 troops Tuesday night on an unprecedented combat deployment to the former Soviet republics of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, bringing the total U.S. force amassed overseas for the war on terrorism to more than 30,000 uniformed personnel, defense officials said.

Victoria Clarke, the Pentagon's chief spokeswoman, said the U.S. military also had 350 combat aircraft, two carrier battle groups and a Marine amphibious ready group in the theater of operations.

To pay for the deployments and cover other war-related expenditures, Ms. Clarke said, the Pentagon has received $4.25 billion of the first $8 billion allocated by the Office of Management and Budget in response to the Sept. 11 attacks.

The deployment of more than 1,000 troops from the 10th Mountain Division marked the first time a regular Army infantry unit has been sent on a mission to a former Soviet state, an Army official said. It also is the first major deployment of a regular Army unit – as opposed to the small, elite Special Forces units – in the campaign against terrorism.

8 posted on 10/03/2001 2:22:38 AM PDT by CommiesOut
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To: liberallarry
"Simon (Steven Simon, then director for counterterrorism on the National Security Council) said. "One can understand why the Saudis didn't want him -- he was a hot potato -- and, frankly, I would have been shocked at the time if the Saudis took him"

"...Lake and Secretary of State Warren Christopher were briefed, colleagues said, on efforts launched to persuade the Saudi government to take bin Laden.
The Saudi idea had some logic, since bin Laden had issued a fatwa, or religious edict, denouncing the ruling House of Saud as corrupt. Riyadh had expelled bin Laden in 1991 and stripped him of his citizenship in 1994, but it wanted no part in jailing or executing him.
Clinton administration officials recalled that the Saudis feared a backlash from the fundamentalist opponents of the regime. Though regarded as a black sheep, bin Laden was nonetheless an heir to one of Saudi Arabia's most influential families. One diplomat familiar with the talks said there was another reason: The Riyadh government was offended that the Sudanese would go to the Americans with the offer."

9 posted on 10/03/2001 2:30:05 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: CommiesOut
The FBI did not believe we had enough evidence to indict bin Laden at that time, and therefore opposed bringing him to the United States," said Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, who was deputy national security adviser then.

What a lieing piece of manure. Resentful west spurned Sudan's key terror files (Gobs of info offered on Terrorists)

I didn't totally trust that Sudan was telling the truth about this, but Samuel R. Berger just confirmed it.

10 posted on 10/03/2001 2:30:29 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: liberallarry
"Bin Laden, 44, a member of an extended wealthy Saudi family, was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991 and stripped of his citizenship three years later. In early 1996, the CIA set up a special bin Laden unit, largely because of evidence linking him to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. At the time, he was living in Sudan, but he was expelled from that country in May 1996 after the CIA failed to persuade the Saudis to accept a Sudanese offer to turn him over."
11 posted on 10/03/2001 2:38:58 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Why weren't the Saudis willing to take him?

Typical Clinton Lies. We could have simply taken bin Laden and turned over to the Russians.

bin Laden was responsible for thousands of Russian deaths in the 80's and early 90's. They would have loved to have killed him. No trial needed.

That kind of stuff has been done hundreds of times. When our laws are two squemish to do something we drop the bad guy off with some nation that is not and has reason to kill him too. There was no need to tell the Saudi's unless Clinton had a good Reason to keep bin Laden alive.

This story in the Washington Pest is needed to cover Clinton's ass. Why?

12 posted on 10/03/2001 2:53:01 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
The Clinton legacy gets curiouser and curiouser.
13 posted on 10/03/2001 3:10:40 AM PDT by meenie
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To: Common Tator
Maybe we could have turned him over to the Russians. Maybe we should have.

But that's not the point. In 1996 there was already so much support for Osama in Saudi Arabia that the government was afraid of him. Now there's far more.

Saudi Arabia is our strongest ally among the Arabs and the country most central to our economic well-being.

15 posted on 10/03/2001 3:46:00 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
In 1996 there was already so much support for Osama in Saudi Arabia that the government was afraid of him. Now there's far more.

Could you provide some back up, some source material, on that support: who was / is supporting ObL there, what is the Saudi government afraid ObL will do in Saudi Arabia, etc?

16 posted on 10/03/2001 4:06:27 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: Common Tator
This story in the Washington Pest is needed to cover Clinton's ass. Why?

For Hillary's run in 2004 or 2008.

17 posted on 10/03/2001 4:11:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: CommiesOut
Spin. Whenever blame is (rightly and justly) placed on bubba's shoulders, a counter article comes out detailing how hard poor bubba tried, but he just could not get it done.
18 posted on 10/03/2001 4:16:37 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Lion's Cub, Common Tator
That Observer article to which you provided a link gives explosive evidence suggesting that the Clinton administration was protecting bin Laden and his organization. Andrew Sullivan predicted yesterday that Sandy Berger would have to spin what's in that article somehow. This article in today's Compost is the spinning that Sullivan predicted.
19 posted on 10/03/2001 4:19:22 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: liberallarry
Why didn't Sudan arrest him and provide him with cement shoes?
20 posted on 10/03/2001 4:22:36 AM PDT by OldFriend
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