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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Battle for Torpedo Junction (1942) - May 20th, 2003
The Island Breeze ^ | December 2000 | Kevin Duffus

Posted on 05/20/2003 5:35:30 AM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: HiJinx
Love your photo of the Cessna(? not good at light aircraft ID from that era) making a bomb run on the surfaced VII-C. Early war U-boat, the later ones utterly bristled with antiaircraft guns, would usually destroy an attacking Mosquito or TBF, very bad news. I will bet you a nickel that those CAP guys made attacks with their tiny bombs on those late war U-boats without hesitation. Utterly aware it was certain death.
61 posted on 05/20/2003 2:19:18 PM PDT by Iris7 ("It is good that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - Gen. Robert Edward Lee)
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To: snippy_about_it
You getting our rain? We've been dry for a week now.
62 posted on 05/20/2003 2:26:04 PM PDT by SAMWolf ((A)bort (R)etry (A)sk 12 Year Old?)
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To: bentfeather
One of our real friends for a long time.
63 posted on 05/20/2003 2:27:32 PM PDT by SAMWolf ((A)bort (R)etry (A)sk 12 Year Old?)
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To: Iris7
I 'd love to do the Crete story, but haven't figured a way to get it into a "US History" Thread.

Maybe I can sneak it in somehow.
64 posted on 05/20/2003 2:29:42 PM PDT by SAMWolf ((A)bort (R)etry (A)sk 12 Year Old?)
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To: Iris7
There's a good book out called 'U-boats Off Shore" that really shows how screwed up things were on the East Coast early in the war. No blackouts, no convoy sysytem, inefective anti-sub procedures, etc.
65 posted on 05/20/2003 2:32:03 PM PDT by SAMWolf ((A)bort (R)etry (A)sk 12 Year Old?)
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To: bentfeather
lol.

Currently I only have dogs but I like cats too.
66 posted on 05/20/2003 3:09:45 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: SAMWolf
You can have the rain back. I'll send it 'round again. lol.

Are you real rainy like Washington State?
67 posted on 05/20/2003 3:10:59 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: snippy_about_it
Not quite as bad, but almost.
68 posted on 05/20/2003 3:11:56 PM PDT by SAMWolf ((A)bort (R)etry (A)sk 12 Year Old?)
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To: snippy_about_it
Shadow and Kodi say:

Dogz Rule, Cats Drul!!

69 posted on 05/20/2003 3:13:22 PM PDT by SAMWolf ((A)bort (R)etry (A)sk 12 Year Old?)
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To: SAMWolf
And what do your cats have to say to that? Hmmmm?
70 posted on 05/20/2003 3:18:54 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: SAMWolf; bentfeather
It's like picking your favorite child. Can't do it. They both have their good and not so good points although I can't think of anything bad about a dog at this moment.:)


71 posted on 05/20/2003 3:24:17 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: SAMWolf
Would love to have that battle put on for reading.

My mother in law's first husband was killed on Crete. (New Zealand) While visiting my in-laws in New Zealand I was able to talk to one of the company commanders that was holding one of the three hills surrounding the airfield. He told me even though he was holding his hill he thought the other two hills had been over run. When in fact all three hills were holding. They all pulled back thinking the same thing about the other two hills. Had each unit had proper radios the New Zealanders might have held on.

Her second husband, ARW (Dan) Ormond (my father inlaw) was a fascinating individual to talk to. He was quite active in the LRDG and was in Italy with the NZ 2nd Division. He had brothers and cousins in the LRDG, some who I have read about. One being Nick Wilder plus another brother Micheal Ormond who was the last guy in the escape tunnel during the "Great Escape". What a neat bunch of people these people were.
72 posted on 05/20/2003 3:27:50 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Served in Korea, Vietnam and still fighting America's enemies on Home Front)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
awwwwww they are so sweet!!
Now snippy, here is a dog of a different sort!!

ROFLOL!

Party Hardy!!

73 posted on 05/20/2003 3:30:58 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: Iris7
Charlie Upton, a New Zealander, also got two awards of the VC. One in Greece or Crete and the other in North Africa where he was captured. Read the book "Mark of the Lion". He was a close friend of my father inlaw who himself got two Military Cross's plus I think five awards of the Military Medal. My father inlaw was with the LRDG and NZ 2nd Division in Africa and Italy.

Also the doctor at Rooke's Drift got the VC there and another during WWI.
74 posted on 05/20/2003 3:37:12 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Served in Korea, Vietnam and still fighting America's enemies on Home Front)
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To: SAMWolf
Use the excuse US Army EOD had a bunch of cousin in laws there.
75 posted on 05/20/2003 3:38:40 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Served in Korea, Vietnam and still fighting America's enemies on Home Front)
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To: bentfeather
Good Grief!
76 posted on 05/20/2003 3:40:04 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: SAMWolf
Hey Sam, you could do the Crete story in honor of our current help from our allies? If there is a will there is a way. :)

I trust you'll find an angle. Relatives of freepers is a good one.
77 posted on 05/20/2003 3:42:27 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: aomagrat; SAMWolf
Trivia fact: Montana is the only one of the lower 48 states that has never had its name given to a battleship

True, but the lead ship of the follow-on class to the IOWAs was going to be named MONTANA.

"Artist's conception of this abortive class, whose construction was cancelled on 21 July 1943. This artwork depicts the ship fitted with a heavy battery of anti-aircraft guns, as would have been the case had she been completed."

78 posted on 05/20/2003 4:17:49 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: snippy_about_it
Good Grief!

What??? Don't you think it's funny????

ROTFLOL
79 posted on 05/20/2003 4:23:41 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (I am really a wacko, you know!!)
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To: bentfeather
What??? Don't you think it's funny???? I am really a wacko, you know!!

Oh it's funny, you're wacko and I'm crazy! You got me good with the Rhett Butler quote earlier! I laughed the rest of the day. LOL.

You're a good example of why I love it here. :)

What a Wonderful World

80 posted on 05/20/2003 5:21:05 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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