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To: impactplayer

The Protestant Reformation was also problematic in some ways. And I think in the coming years you will find more and more Protestant scholars and intellectuals concluding as much...and calling for a need to recover the Catholic worldview and foundation for civilization.


9 posted on 01/01/2020 12:30:34 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“calling for a need to recover the Catholic worldview and foundation for civilization.”

Lol.

I don’t know a single Bible-believing, God-fearing Protestant or evangelical who wants to embrace the Roman church and its doctrines of salvation by works, co-redemptrix Mary, infallibility of a Pope, gay clergy, liberation theology etc. That’s not to say that we non-Catholic Christians don’t have our own issues. The mainline Protestant churches often abandon Gospel. And there is plenty of antinomianism and seeker sensitivity trash on the evangelical side. But...as to real principled moral leadership, I know of very few Catholics who exhibit this. And I can speak from a position of experience, having married (then divorced) a Catholic and survived the duplicity, narcissism and frank dishonesty of fake pious Catholic ex-inlaws who wanted to deprive me the right to be a father to my offspring.

Why is it Catholics are so obsessed with bringing Christians to the Roman church? Focus on cleaning up the priest pedophilia, socialism, support for illegal immigration and other garbage would be more fruitful for you.

No offense intended to decent individual Catholic fellow freepers.


18 posted on 01/01/2020 1:21:48 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The winner of the protestant reformation as of today was not Luther or Calvin but rather Cervetus byo his protege Descartes. It was Descartes who created the tree of knowledge and universities disciplines mathematics, physics, biology, chemistry and on to the social sciences. The trunk of Descartes tree of knowledge is philosophy. The roots of the tree of knowledge were metaphysics. Theology was packed into a subbranch with witchcraft.

All the great universities of the west have shown their philosophy students Descartes tree of knowledge for 300 years —and screwed them up.. Sadly, theology never belonged in the tree of knowledge because theology is God centered. Philosophy is man centered. Theology begins in God and is top down. Philosophy begins in man and is bottoms up. In theology —God is the measure of all things. In philosophy man is the measure of all thing.

btw Cervetus believed in the low view of Christ. He was burned at the stake by John Calvin. Likely Calvin knew his Catholic history and knew that followers of the Arian heresy tended to side with the Muslims. As such, they represented not just a theological threat to christianity but an existential threat to the west.

This was important because only two decades before— the Muslim Turks had laid siege to Vienna.


22 posted on 01/01/2020 1:49:41 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

You might be right - but not if this Pope has his way . . .


23 posted on 01/01/2020 2:42:43 PM PST by impactplayer
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