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Census: A Little Too Personal (Ron Paul)
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, 14th District ^ | 2010-03-08

Posted on 03/08/2010 10:07:08 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Last week Congress voted to encourage participation in the 2010 census. I voted "No" on this resolution for the simple, obvious reason that the census- like so many government programs- has grown far beyond what the framers of our Constitution intended. The invasive nature of the current census raises serious questions about how and why government will use the collected information. It also demonstrates how the federal bureaucracy consistently encourages citizens to think of themselves in terms of groups, rather than as individual Americans. The not so subtle implication is that each group, whether ethnic, religious, social, or geographic, should speak up and demand its "fair share" of federal largesse.

Article I, section 2 of the Constitution calls for an enumeration of citizens every ten years, for the purpose of apportioning congressional seats among the various states. In other words, the census should be nothing more than a headcount. It was never intended to serve as a vehicle for gathering personal information on citizens.

But our voracious federal government thrives on collecting information. In fact, to prepare for the 2010 census state employees recorded GPS coordinates for every front door in the United States so they could locate individuals with greater accuracy! Once duly located, individuals are asked detailed questions concerning their name, address, race, home ownership, and whether they periodically spend time in prison or a nursing home - just to name a few examples.

From a constitutional perspective, of course, the answer to each of these questions is: "None of your business." But the bigger question is -- why government is so intent on compiling this information in the first place?

The Census Bureau claims that collected information is not shared with any federal agency; but rather is kept under lock and key for 72 years. It also claims that no information provided to census takers can be used against you by the government.

However, these promises can and have been abused in the past. Census data has been used to locate men who had not registered for the draft. Census data also was used to find Japanese-Americans for internment camps during World War II. Furthermore, the IRS has applied census information to detect alleged tax evaders. Some local governments even have used census data to check for compliance with zoning regulations.

It is not hard to imagine that information compiled by the census could be used against people in the future, despite claims to the contrary and the best intentions of those currently in charge of the Census Bureau. The government can and does change its mind about these things, and people have a right to be skeptical about government promises.

Yet there are consequences for not submitting to the census and its intrusive questions. If the form is not mailed back in time, households will experience the "pleasure" of a visit by a government worker asking the questions in person. If the government still does not get the information it wants, it can issue a fine of up to $5000.

If the federal government really wants to increase compliance with the census, it should abide by the Constitution and limit its inquiry to one simple question: How many people live here?


TOPICS: Issues
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; census; ronpaul

1 posted on 03/08/2010 10:07:09 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

I wrote down the number of people, sealed it, and dropped it in the mail box.

I wish the government the best of luck in collecting the $5000.


2 posted on 03/08/2010 10:13:49 PM PST by TheZMan (Just secede and get it over with. No love lost on either side. Cya.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Today I received via first class mail a one page letter tell me in “about one week from now, you will receive a 2010 Census form in the mail.” So Robert M. Groves, Director of the U.S. Census Bureau.....don’t you think I would have figured that out when I received the census in about a week!

Geez, how much do ya think that cost to mail a letter to every friggin address in the country?


3 posted on 03/08/2010 10:20:42 PM PST by jackieh
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To: jackieh

I got the same letter, what a waste of stamps.


4 posted on 03/08/2010 10:26:21 PM PST by annieokie
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To: jackieh

Hey, if you can move from a blue state to a red state by April Fools Day do so. If you can’t do that move from a blue part of a state to a red part of a state do so.

If not, tell the Census Bureau how many people live at your address.


5 posted on 03/08/2010 10:26:52 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: jackieh
Today I received via first class mail a one page letter tell me in “about one week from now, you will receive a 2010 Census form in the mail.” So Robert M. Groves, Director of the U.S. Census Bureau.....don’t you think I would have figured that out when I received the census in about a week!

Geez, how much do ya think that cost to mail a letter to every friggin address in the country?

I got one today too. I figured it was because the current administration thinks we're stupid.

6 posted on 03/08/2010 10:45:18 PM PST by notaliberal
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To: notaliberal

The only answer on my census is the number of people in the household. That’s it!!!!


7 posted on 03/08/2010 10:46:13 PM PST by notaliberal
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To: jackieh; annieokie

Got the same letter myself today too


8 posted on 03/08/2010 10:52:53 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: notaliberal; jackieh; Steelers6; annieokie; TheZMan; rabscuttle385

Wow...we’ve gone this many posts & the PaulHaters haven’t crawled out from in under the woodwork yet. I think we have broken a record.


9 posted on 03/08/2010 10:57:59 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul is still a turd.


10 posted on 03/08/2010 11:30:13 PM PST by packrat35 (Democrat Healthcare is a 9-11 Attack on the Constitution)
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To: ChrisInAR

See post 10.


11 posted on 03/08/2010 11:31:15 PM PST by packrat35 (Democrat Healthcare is a 9-11 Attack on the Constitution)
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To: jackieh
I received the very same letter today. I thought the very same thing. Couldn't they just tell me to fill out the census in the envelope with the census form.

In answer to your question there is a 2010 estimate: 114,825,428 households in the U.S. If the census department paid first class letter rates for this exercise in stupidity the transferred $50,523,188.32 to the U.S. Post Office FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHAT SO EVER! Hey but the Post Office can use the money, we only had to bail them out to the tune of $7 Billion in FY2010.

12 posted on 03/08/2010 11:55:03 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: packrat35

I just barely beat them, didn’t I? I didn’t think it would last very long.


13 posted on 03/09/2010 12:42:27 AM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: TheZMan

A woman dropped off our census form. All they asked was for the name, age and sex of each person here and if they lived here full time. It was the least invasive census form that I’ve ever come across.


14 posted on 03/09/2010 1:05:07 AM PST by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: jackieh

Stimulus money for the USPS.


15 posted on 03/09/2010 2:11:47 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Portcall24

LOL! That’s a good one!


16 posted on 03/09/2010 4:48:12 AM PST by village idiot
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To: rabscuttle385

The government should be counting lawful residents only; there is no reason why illegals should be diluting my representation.


17 posted on 03/09/2010 8:38:40 AM PST by bt_dooftlook (ACORN = Another Communist-Overrun Rats-Nest)
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To: rabscuttle385

I filled in two and that was it, its already in the mail.


18 posted on 03/09/2010 8:41:30 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: rabscuttle385

“It also demonstrates how the federal bureaucracy consistently encourages citizens to think of themselves in terms of groups, rather than as individual Americans. The not so subtle implication is that each group, whether ethnic, religious, social, or geographic, should speak up and demand its “fair share” of federal largess” AND: “But our voracious federal government thrives on collecting information. In fact, to prepare for the 2010 census state employees recorded GPS coordinates for every front door in the United States so they could locate individuals with greater accuracy! Once duly located, individuals are asked detailed questions concerning their name, address, race, home ownership, and whether they periodically spend time in prison or a nursing home - just to name a few examples” Your papers, please!


19 posted on 03/13/2010 7:49:30 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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