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Churches told to ditch 'Jesus on a cross' image
Ananova ^ | 14 August 2003 | staff writers

Posted on 08/18/2003 10:40:13 AM PDT by ahadams2

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argh! just argh!
1 posted on 08/18/2003 10:40:14 AM PDT by ahadams2
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To: ahadams2
Which churches? Catholic? I don't think that many others actually use images and icons of Christ on the cross. Most display a simple cross without a figure on it.
2 posted on 08/18/2003 10:56:11 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Never attend a gunfight with a handgun the caliber of which starts with less than a "4.")
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To: WestPacSailor
Which churches?

This story is coming out of Britain. Think Anglican.

3 posted on 08/18/2003 11:06:16 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
Ahhh yes, the Anglican Church strikes again.

Promote a sodomite leading a deviant lifestyle to a position of authority...ok now, remove all those offending symbols like crucifixes and bibles...Good, now let's all pledge alliegance to Satan and make it official.

4 posted on 08/18/2003 11:08:19 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Never attend a gunfight with a handgun the caliber of which starts with less than a "4.")
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To: ahadams2
It doesn't matter what religion you are - it is just plain wrong.

I have a friend who was raised somewhat Catholic (although her parents never took her to church), but now is a born-again. She cringes every time she sees a necklace of the crucified Christ. She believes this is horrible that people would want to blasphemy Jesus this way. To hear her explain it, everyday is like "Easter" at her church. No matter what I say, nothing avails. I always end up telling her that you could not have had Easter without Good Friday!!!!!!!

5 posted on 08/18/2003 11:24:51 AM PDT by Gerish
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To: Gerish
Blasphemy?

You mean meditating on the wounds of Christ is blasphemy? The more I see of the strange avoidance of Christ as suffering servant and Judge, the happier I am to remain Catholic. I'll gaze at a crucifix any day.


6 posted on 08/18/2003 12:11:53 PM PDT by OpusatFR (being bottom heavy keeps you bobbing on the water, not under it.)
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To: WestPacSailor; NYer
Ahhh yes, the Anglican Church strikes again.

Guess again. Christianity+Renewal is not connected with the Church of England or any other Anglican church. You have to go all the way to google.com and type in the name to find that out. I know it's a lot of work so I did it for you.

Christianity+Renewal

7 posted on 08/18/2003 12:18:42 PM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: Gerish
I always end up telling her that you could not have had Easter without Good Friday!!!!!!!

Excellent response! In my catholic parish, we have one of those larger than life Risen Christ statues on the back wall, in lieu of a crucifix. (long story) I asked my pastor about it and his response was: "Christ was only on the cross for 3 hours but He is risen forever". My jaw dropped!

You may want to share the following story with your friend.

PATTY BONDS CONVERSION STORY .

BTW, Patty Bonds will be a guest on Journey Home, Monday, October 6 @8pm on EWTN.

8 posted on 08/18/2003 12:20:51 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: trad_anglican
. I know it's a lot of work so I did it for you.

Your sarcasm is noted. Not generally appreciated, but noted.

9 posted on 08/18/2003 12:21:37 PM PDT by WestPacSailor (Never attend a gunfight with a handgun the caliber of which starts with less than a "4.")
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To: ahadams2
but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles (1 Corinthians 1:23)

Listen to this chapter in Real Audio
http://www.biblegateway.com/bgaudio/english/niv/hurl?passage=1cor+1
10 posted on 08/18/2003 12:24:00 PM PDT by miltonim
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To: WestPacSailor
Your sarcasm is noted. Not generally appreciated, but noted.

I apologize. Please forgive me. I generally exhibit a greater degree of calm. Guess my skin is a little thin these days.

11 posted on 08/18/2003 12:26:28 PM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: NYer
Thank you - will pass it along to her (HOPE it helps)!!
12 posted on 08/18/2003 12:26:28 PM PDT by Gerish
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To: trad_anglican
I generally exhibit a greater degree of calm. Guess my skin is a little thin these days.

'tis ok. I too am rather displeased with what my church has chosen to do as of late. (Christened in an Episcopalian church in 1966). I think it's a horrible afront to God the way they elevated an avowed sodomite to a position of leadership within the church.

13 posted on 08/18/2003 12:31:09 PM PDT by WestPacSailor (Never attend a gunfight with a handgun the caliber of which starts with less than a "4.")
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To: ahadams2
The Seeker Friendly Church concept has been very popular here in the states, and I couldn't disagree with it any more than I do now. The linked article is very insightful, and a MUST READ.
14 posted on 08/18/2003 1:45:19 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Gerish
what you're running into with your friend is called...er, well let's just say that some Protestant denominations emphasize theological education for their lay people substantially more than others do.

If you care to freepmail me I might be able to make some suggestions which while decided Protestant, might at least get her to thinking a bit passed the 'I'm saved and that's that' level.
15 posted on 08/18/2003 2:41:18 PM PDT by ahadams2 ( Anglicanism: the next reformation begins NOW)
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To: WestPacSailor
LOL! now now, you're just thinking of the little old lady who said she liked the Scripture readings in the Sunday service "because they sound so much like the prayerbook"...

More seriously though - this sort of marketting nonsense isn't limited to Anglicanism, *ahem* look at some of the other 'seeker sensitive' practices of denominations ranging from the Saddleback folks all the way to *some* portions of Vineyard Fellowship - it pretty much covers the Protestant spectrum.
16 posted on 08/18/2003 2:47:07 PM PDT by ahadams2 ( Anglicanism: the next reformation begins NOW)
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To: ahadams2
Catholic Churches???
17 posted on 08/18/2003 3:33:37 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ahadams2
... and that whole crucifixion thing ... and sin, too! Big turn-off!
18 posted on 08/18/2003 3:44:42 PM PDT by polemikos (Ecce Agnus Dei)
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To: WestPacSailor
Even the plain cross has proven to be too much for some churches, liberal Catholic parishes included.
19 posted on 08/18/2003 4:05:53 PM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: NYer
I love her story! Brings tears to my eyes everytime! Love it!
20 posted on 08/18/2003 7:01:33 PM PDT by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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