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To: jude24; Revelation 911
if Augustine, Calvin, whoever made a mistake like this-- does it automatically disqualify their theology?

No, not necessarily, but one would certainly have to question the wisdom of adopting the name of someone who would do such a thing as a description of your theology. To proudly claim that you are a "swarming Calvinist" in light of the fact that this man may have been guilty of the worst kind of blasphemy -- to have a man killed in the name of Christ for -- among other things-- having the gall to suggest that infant baptism is an invention of the devil. (Which, of course IT IS!).

Even if I subscribed to the doctrinal beliefs of Calvin, I certainly would never associate myself with the name of a man of somewhat questionable character, especially if that person went to his grave insisting that he had done nothing wrong.

Seems to me that if one follows the doctrines of Calvinism which teach that no man can possibly understand spiritual things unless he is an "elect", the fact that Calvin or Augustine or any of these theologians had a checkered history and engaged in what could arguably be called murder -- would, in my mind, seem to disqualify their theology. If by their actions and the fruit of their lives there is empirical evidence that they are not godly men, then how can we be assured that their theology is correct? You simply can't.

If you are a Calvinist and you believe that the reprobates cannot understand the first thing about spiritual things, then you would have to reject the teachings of Calvin if you believed him to be a reprobate.

Perhaps that explains the somewhat blind and apologetic (everybody did it back then) way in which Calvinists defend the objectively wicked actions of Calvin and the reformists in Geneva. If these men were reprobates, then the whole house of cards falls. So in essence the doctrines of Calvinism stand or fall on the character of Calvin himself. If he was not elect, then none of the theological conclusions he reached could possibly be considered valid -- unless he plagerized them from someone who actually was elect.

BTW it is not a "mistake" to have a man exterminated for disagreeing with your theology. It is a sin.

15 posted on 07/16/2003 8:20:35 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: fortheDeclaration
Sorry I forgot to ping you and pinged rev911 instead. You KJV onlyers get me confused. :-)
16 posted on 07/16/2003 8:25:04 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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If you are a Calvinist and you believe that the reprobates cannot understand the first thing about spiritual things, then you would have to reject the teachings of Calvin if you believed him to be a reprobate.

Pathetic slander

18 posted on 07/16/2003 9:10:23 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: P-Marlowe
BTW it is not a "mistake" to have a man exterminated for disagreeing with your theology. It is a sin.

Amen!

53 posted on 07/17/2003 1:55:59 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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