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To: Dr Warmoose
Couldn't have said it any better myself. Thanks for the Greek lesson; God hasn't given me the gift of language studies . You mentioned you wouldn't call yourself a "Calvinist" per se-- do you have disagreement with others of the 5 points, or is it over something less important? I, for example, hold completely to the TULIP, but don't agree at all with Calvin's theocratic designs for his Geneva, I believe there was only one theocracy, and that was set up, and set down by God directly.
17 posted on 07/06/2003 4:56:57 PM PDT by John_burchett
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To: John_burchett
You mentioned you wouldn't call yourself a "Calvinist" per se-- do you have disagreement with others of the 5 points, or is it over something less important?

I am loathe to say "I am of Paul", or "I am of Apollos" or "I am of Calvin". The term "Calvinist" among friends is a shortcut to say "I believe in the Doctrines of Grace". Just like those who are of the FWT crowd are often called "Arminian", though most rarely hold but to just a few of the tenets of the Remonstrants, the term "Arminian" is an intramural term for distinguishing "Calvinist" from non-Calvinist. My favorite label for one who belives in "Religia Americana" (the predominate view within evangelical circles such as the Southern Baptists and Bible Churches) is "semi-Pelagian".

But to answer your question, I have been accused of being a Do-It-Yourself Christian.(not that I saved myself, but that I don't automatically embrace 1689 Baptist Confession, the Belgic or the Westminster, rather I consider them as guardrails.) For instance, I prefer to consider John's Baptism as a sign and something that is optional rather than view it as a sacrament as everyone else does. (So this kicks me out of the Baptist camp) I have reason to believe that John's Baptism wasn't full immersion, but rather "dry-cleaning" (sprinkled). Yet I don't subscribe at all to the Roman Catholoc or Covenant Theology's sacramental view of baptism. (More of a believer's baptist rather than one who baptises the unregenerate.)

Calvin believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary. I am not a Mary Idolator, and feel that Mary would have been living in sin if she ignored the Genesis 1-2 commands that a man and woman marry and have children.

In terms of lapsarianism, I am certainly not a "common grace" infra, and I feel that supralapsarianism isn't quite there either, so I am a Hyper-Ultra-Mega-Arch-Supralapsarian

I am aligned with Mark & Luke regarding divorce, not Matthew

The list of stuff goes on concerning how I differ from Calvin and many of the Reformers. So if someone wants to argue soteriology, I will be a Calvinst just to keep the lines simple. But if one wants to get into other doctrines then lets shy away from the label Calvinist until proven otherwise.

19 posted on 07/06/2003 6:58:07 PM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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