See, thats where Wesley gets into trouble. Nothing wrong with "Mankind is unable to make the slightest move towards Christ" where the trouble begins is with the word "first". "First" implies a "second", and when a "second" is in man's hands then what you are getting back to is the doctrine of a helpless God who pines away hoping and wishing that man would do something right.
All of this wishful thinking that man somehow is the ultimate authority, still is a anthropocentric religion that makes man sovereign in matters of salvation.
What is the ground and 'nature' (extent) of this Salvation?
?.....partial or total.....Salvation?
Mankind is unable to make the slightest move towards Christ in his fallen condition without God first...
See, thats where Wesley gets into trouble. Nothing wrong with "Mankind is unable to make the slightest move towards Christ" where the trouble begins is with the word "first". "First" implies a "second", and when a "second" is in man's hands then what you are getting back to is the doctrine of a helpless God who pines away hoping and wishing that man would do something right.
All of this wishful thinking that man somehow is the ultimate authority, still is a anthropocentric religion that makes man sovereign in matters of salvation.
What is the ground and 'nature' (extent) of this Salvation?
?.....partial or total.....Salvation?