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Mary Magdalene, a chaste, virgin, the hand maid of the Lord!
ACP ^ | 05-07-2003

Posted on 05/09/2003 7:30:55 AM PDT by 2timothy3.16

Mary Magdalene, a chaste, virgin, the hand maid of the Lord!

Wednesday May 7th, 2003

Today we are going to look at what the word of God, the Holy Bible has to say about the woman whom God choose to first show Himself to on Easter Sunday 33AD. And in doing so, we will show to be a lie the absolute lying nonsense spurted from the mouths of the haters of Christ as they continue to claim that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. Why do I refer to them as haters of Christ? Because if they loved the Lord they would study His word, the Holy Bible and know better.

First let's take a little look at why so many that refuse to study God's Word spew this filth about Mary Magdalene. The simple and most accurate answer is that they refuse to study God's word, the Holy Bible and they want to bring God down to their level. They want to think of Jesus as just another friend, a friend far away, a friend they can ignore or turn to when they want to. A friend they claim talks to them through trees, the wind, the water, while they are pondering or in a trance and heaven only knows when else. The want to make Jesus human with human frailties. They do now want to acknowledge that Jesus, God the Son and the Father are one. They do not want to serve Jesus as Lord and Master, Saviour and Creator, but as just one of the guys. That do not want to be His bond servant, they want to be His buddy, His chum, His peer. So, they make the sinless Christ a sinner, a man who hangs around with and recently I heard from one such liberal, a man who sent Mary Magdalene out to prostitute for Him to raise money for His necessities.

I want to start by showing the absolute ignorance of God's word when a women told me that not only was Mary Magdalene a prostitute, but that Jesus sent her out to ply her trade to raise money for His needs. In John Chapter one, we read that God the Father and God the Son are one and that God the Father and God the Son created all things for nothing was created that was not created by Jesus.

In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same (Jesus) was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him (Jesus); and without Him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:1-3)

So, why, would God need to send a prostitute out to raise money for Him when He had created all things including, gold, silver, diamonds, etc. Now, there came a time when Jesus needed a little money, and as we will see in Matthew Seventeen, He didn't send Mary Magdalene out for it, He sent Peter out to get the money, not from illegal or immoral behavior, but from a fish.

And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money (tax collector) came to Peter, and said, "Doth not your master pay tribute?"

He saith, "Yes". And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free? Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for Me and thee. (Matthew 17:24-27)

So, we see in John one that Jesus created all things, in Matthew seventeen, we see that when Jesus needed anything, He simply got it by showing that He was God by getting it in a manner that others could not do. But, to know these things, you would have to Read Your Bible, not talk to trees, birds, the wind, water and/or smoke.

Now we are going to do what the leftist small c Christians hate to do more than anything, we are going to see who Mary Magdalene is by reading ever reference to her in God's word, the Holy Bible and even worse we are going to use the version the leftist hate, the King James Version, the only authorized version.

Jesus, when He had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, "Truly this was the Son of God." And many women were there beholding afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering unto Him: Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children.

When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple: He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered. And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, 60 and laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.

And there was Mary Magdalene, and the other Mary, sitting over against the sepulchre. (Matthew 27:50-60)

In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.

And the angel answered and said unto the women, "Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here: for He is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly, and tell His disciples that He is risen from the dead; and, behold, He goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see Him: lo, I have told you." (Matthew 28:1-7)

And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost. And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. And when the centurion, which stood over against Him, saw that He so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, "Truly this Man was the Son of God."

There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome; (Who also, when Jesus was in Galilee, followed Him, and ministered unto Him;) and many other women which came up with Him unto Jerusalem.

And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus. And Pilate marvelled if Jesus were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether He had been any while dead. And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph. And he bought fine linen, and took Him down, and wrapped Him in the linen, and laid Him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre.

And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where Jesus was laid. (Mark 15:37-47)

And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint Him.

And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre? And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great. And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted. And he saith unto them, "Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: He is risen; He is not here: behold the place where they laid Him. But go your way, tell His disciples and Peter that He goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see Him, as He said unto you."

And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid. Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven devils. (Mark 16:1-9)

And it came to pass afterward, that Jesus went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him, and certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, and Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto Him of their substance. (Luke 8:1-3)

Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre. And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments: And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, "Why seek ye the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen: remember how He spake unto you when He was yet in Galilee, Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again."

And they remembered His words, and returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest. It was Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles. (Luke 24:1-10)

In completion:

Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. (John 19:25)

The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. (John 20:1)

Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that He had spoken these things unto her. (Joh4 20:18)

Everyone of the four Gospel writers talks about Mary Magdalene, do you see even one verse that indicates that she was a prostitute? Me either.

Yet the leftist will hang on to their slander of this fine woman, a woman who associated with God, the Apostles, His mother and other virtues women, by slyly implying that this next bit of Scripture is really talking about Mary Magdalene. Where in the world they get this idea is beyond me, for this woman is unnamed, yet it is very clear that when Mary Magdalene was involved, as we can see from the many verse quoted above, God's word has no trouble naming her.

Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. And early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people came unto Him; and He sat down, and taught them.

And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto Him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, they say unto Him, "Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest Thou?" This they said, tempting Him, that they might have to accuse Him.

But Jesus stooped down, and with His finger wrote on the ground, as though He heard them not. So when they continued asking Him, He lifted up Himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

And again He stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up Himself, and saw none but the woman, He said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, "No man, Lord." And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. (John 8:1-11)

No Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute, nor was she the women caught committing adultery in John eight, no, she was just the opposite, she was a virtuous woman. She was the virtuous hand maiden of the Lord whom the Lord God of Creation drove seven devils from. She then followed the Lord and served Him as we are suppose to serve Him, not as His buddy, but as His bond servant, His slave. She served Him so loyally that with His mother Mary present Jesus chose to first speak to Mary Magdalene after His resurrection on the morning of Easter Sunday 33AD, the first and most blessed Easter.

Funny some of the same people that still insist that they can and should pray to Mary the mother of Jesus insult and slander the woman whom the Lord first choose to speak to, Mary Magdalene.

May the Lord our God, Christ Jesus give them the desire to read and study His word the Holy Bible instead of talking to trees, birds and heaven only knows what else.

Amen.



Lord God Creator of all things, we, the people of the USA, give Thee thanks for giving us the second chance we do not deserve. We thank Thee Lord for our brave troops who are at this very instant freeing and liberating people through out the kingdom of satan. Amen. And Lord we beseech Thee that Thou would send to our men a Paul, to preach Your word to them before they go to free those held captive by the forces of evil left by Saul. Touch the Presidents heart Lord, lead him in a direction to send evangelist to our troops, give him the strength Lord to serve You, to use his office, that You have entrusted him with, as Commander in Chief to authorize and send solid evangelical Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christian evangelist preachers to bring the Word of God to our troops, giving them both reason to fight and the Lord's plan of salvation.
Lord Jesus, it is in Thy Sacred and Holy Name I pray, Amen.

All Scripture is quoted, is from the ACP/authorized 1611 King James Version. All of the Bible is spoken by God and should be viewed as God's handbook for us to run our lives by according to 2nd Timothy 3:16.

God blessed America when she feared Him, now it appears, she may face His wrath.


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1 posted on 05/09/2003 7:30:56 AM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: 2timothy3.16
Is this serious? :-O

Interesting portrait of Jesus in here; it implies that He wouldn't "hang around with sinners", or use them for His purposes, yet according to Matthew He even lowered Himself to recline at table with them:

Matthew 9:10-13
10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. 11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? 12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. 13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

At any rate, Jesus hung out with Judas, let him mind the cash box, and even washed his feet! Was Judas not a sinner more vile than a prostitute?

The Jesus of this article could not have this written of Him:

Phillipians 2:5-8
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

BTW, the title of the article claims that Mary Magdalene was a virgin. Where is the proof of that?

2 posted on 05/09/2003 8:08:20 AM PDT by jboot
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To: 2timothy3.16; american colleen; sinkspur; livius; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; ...

St. Mary Magdalen

Mary Magdalen was so called either from Magdala near Tiberias, on the west shore of Galilee, or possibly from a Talmudic expression meaning "curling women's hair," which the Talmud explains as of an adulteress.

In the New Testament she is mentioned among the women who accompanied Christ and ministered to Him (Luke 8:2-3), where it is also said that seven devils had been cast out of her (Mark 16:9). She is next named as standing at the foot of the cross (Mark 15:40; Matthew 27:56; John 19:25; Luke 23:49). She saw Christ laid in the tomb, and she was the first recorded witness of the Resurrection.

The Greek Fathers, as a whole, distinguish the three persons:

On the other hand most of the Latins hold that these three were one and the same. Protestant critics, however, believe there were two, if not three, distinct persons. It is impossible to demonstrate the identity of the three; but those commentators undoubtedly go too far who assert, as does Westcott (on John 11:1), "that the identity of Mary with Mary Magdalene is a mere conjecture supported by no direct evidence, and opposed to the general tenour of the gospels." It is the identification of Mary of Bethany with the "sinner" of Luke 7:37, which is most combatted by Protestants. It almost seems as if this reluctance to identify the "sinner" with the sister of Martha were due to a failure to grasp the full significance of the forgiveness of sin. The harmonizing tendencies of so many modern critics, too, are responsible for much of the existing confusion.

The first fact, mentioned in the Gospel relating to the question under discussion is the anointing of Christ's feet by a woman, a "sinner" in the city (Luke 7:37-50). This belongs to the Galilean ministry, it precedes the miracle of the feeding of the five thousand and the third Passover. Immediately afterwards St. Luke describes a missionary circuit in Galilee and tells us of the women who ministered to Christ, among them being "Mary who is called Magdalen, out of whom seven devils were gone forth" (Luke 8:2); but he does not tell us that she is to be identified with the "sinner" of the previous chapter. In 10:38-42, he tells us of Christ's visit to Martha and Mary "in a certain town"; it is impossible to identify this town, but it is clear from ix, 53, that Christ had definitively left Galilee, and it is quite possible that this "town" was Bethany. This seems confirmed by the preceding parable of the good Samaritan, which must almost certainly have been spoken on the road between Jericho and Jerusalem. But here again we note that there is no suggestion of an identification of the three persons (the "sinner", Mary Magdalen, and Mary of Bethany), and if we had only St. Luke to guide us we should certainly have no grounds for so identifying them. St. John, however, clearly identifies Mary of Bethany with the woman who anointed Christ's feet (12; cf. Matthew 26 and Mark 14). It is remarkable that already in 11:2, St. John has spoken of Mary as "she that anointed the Lord's feet", he aleipsasa; It is commonly said that he refers to the subsequent anointing which he himself describes in 12:3-8; but it may be questioned whether he would have used he aleipsasa if another woman, and she a "sinner" in the city, had done the same. It is conceivable that St. John, just because he is writing so long after the event and at a time when Mary was dead, wishes to point out to us that she was really the same as the "sinner." In the same way St. Luke may have veiled her identity precisely because he did not wish to defame one who was yet living; he certainly does something similar in the case of St. Matthew whose identity with Levi the publican (5:7) he conceals.

If the foregoing argument holds good, Mary of Bethany and the "sinner" are one and the same. But an examination of St. John's Gospel makes it almost impossible to deny the identity of Mary of Bethany with Mary Magdalen. From St. John we learn the name of the "woman" who anointed Christ's feet previous to the last supper. We may remark here that it seems unnecessary to hold that because St. Matthew and St. Mark say "two days before the Passover", while St. John says "six days" there were, therefore, two distinct anointings following one another. St. John does not necessarily mean that the supper and the anointing took place six days before, but only that Christ came to Bethany six days before the Passover. At that supper, then, Mary received the glorious encomium, "she hath wrought a good work upon Me . . . in pouring this ointment upon My body she hath done it for My burial . . . wheresoever this Gospel shall be preached . . . that also which she hath done shall be told for a memory of her." Is it credible, in view of all this, that this Mary should have no place at the foot of the cross, nor at the tomb of Christ? Yet it is Mary Magdalen who, according to all the Evangelists, stood at the foot of the cross and assisted at the entombment and was the first recorded witness of the Resurrection. And while St. John calls her "Mary Magdalen" in 19:25, 20:1, and 20:18, he calls her simply "Mary" in 20:11 and 20:16.

In the view we have advocated the series of events forms a consistent whole; the "sinner" comes early in the ministry to seek for pardon; she is described immediately afterwards as Mary Magdalen "out of whom seven devils were gone forth"; shortly after, we find her "sitting at the Lord's feet and hearing His words." To the Catholic mind it all seems fitting and natural. At a later period Mary and Martha turn to "the Christ, the Son of the Living God", and He restores to them their brother Lazarus; a short time afterwards they make Him a supper and Mary once more repeats the act she had performed when a penitent. At the Passion she stands near by; she sees Him laid in the tomb; and she is the first witness of His Resurrection--excepting always His Mother, to whom He must needs have appeared first, though the New Testament is silent on this point. In our view, then, there were two anointings of Christ's feet--it should surely be no difficulty that St. Matthew and St. Mark speak of His head--the first (Luke 7) took place at a comparatively early date; the second, two days before the last Passover. But it was one and the same woman who performed this pious act on each occasion.

Subsequent history of St. Mary Magdalen. The Greek Church maintains that the saint retired to Ephesus with the Blessed Virgin and there died, that her relics were transferred to Constantinople in 886 and are there preserved. Gregory of Tours (De miraculis, I, xxx) supports the statement that she went to Ephesus. However, according to a French tradition (see SAINT LAZARUS OF BETHANY), Mary, Lazarus, and some companions came to Marseilles and converted the whole of Provence. Magdalen is said to have retired to a hill, La Sainte-Baume, near by, where she gave herself up to a life of penance for thirty years. When the time of her death arrived she was carried by angels to Aix and into the oratory of St. Maximinus, where she received the viaticum; her body was then laid in an oratory constructed by St. Maximinus at Villa Lata, afterwards called St. Maximin. History is silent about these relics till 745, when according to the chronicler Sigebert, they were removed to Vézelay through fear of the Saracens. No record is preserved of their return, but in 1279, when Charles II, King of Naples, erected a convent at La Sainte-Baume for the Dominicans, the shrine was found intact, with an inscription stating why they were hidden. In 1600 the relics were placed in a sarcophagus sent by Clement VIII, the head being placed in a separate vessel. In 1814 the church of La Sainte-Baume, wrecked during the Revolution, was restored, and in 1822 the grotto was consecrated afresh. The head of the saint now lies there, where it has lain so long, and where it has been the centre of so many pilgrimages.

3 posted on 05/09/2003 8:21:20 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: 2timothy3.16
In trying to research the history of this topic I found the following reference :

"In 600 AD, Pope Gregory labeled her a penitent prostitute.
...
In 1969 the Catholic Church reversed its position about Gregory's 1400-year-old statement."

[Please, please my Catholic friends, I am not posting this as an attack!! I LIKE my Catholic Freeper family!!!]

But for the purpose of determining history : Can anyone verify the statements I found above or provide information as to where the idea that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute or was the woman caught in adultery actually originated?

Let's use this forum to make each other smarter, not angrier!

4 posted on 05/09/2003 8:28:36 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: NYer
Mary Magdalen was not a virgin.
5 posted on 05/09/2003 9:26:38 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Mary Magdalen was not a virgin.

Scripture offers no guidance one way or the other on this point. I found it interesting that the title of the post affirms that MM was "a chaste, virgin, the handmaid of the Lord! (sic)", but the body of the article offers no proof of this. It almost seems as if the writer of the title confused Mary Magdalene with Mary the mother of Jesus.

It really doesn't matter to me if Mary Magdalene was or was not a prostitute, a virgin or a platypus, for that matter. The real question that this article raises is whether or not there is such a thing as a personal, compassionate, loving Jesus. The author obviously thinks not.

6 posted on 05/09/2003 10:19:12 AM PDT by jboot
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To: The_Reader_David
Ping!
7 posted on 05/09/2003 11:35:19 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: 2timothy3.16
It is my understanding that Mary Magdalene, who is only described as having seven devils driven from her, was confused with the legendary prostitute Mary of Egypt at some point in history. Mary of Egypt delighted in seducing men and leading them to destruction. Eventually she did repent, convert and lived a subsequent life of celibacy.

Mary of Bethany and Mary of Magdala were obviously two different people. There were lots of people around Jesus, including many women. What is this desire to associate every unnamed woman in the Bible with Mary Magdalene?
8 posted on 05/09/2003 11:41:11 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Mary of Egypt was still very popular in the Western Church in the Middle Ages. (They still have a feast day for her in the Eastern Churches) You can see her mentioned in such works as The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer
9 posted on 05/09/2003 1:49:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: 2timothy3.16
The want to make Jesus human with human frailties.

Well, of course. In case the author of this Goofus & Gallant piece missed it, that was sort of the point all along.

10 posted on 05/09/2003 1:58:54 PM PDT by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears the Tao, he laughs out loud.)
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To: jboot
At any rate, Jesus hung out with Judas, let him mind the cash box, and even washed his feet! Was Judas not a sinner more vile than a prostitute?

In John 17, you will notice that the Lord, in His prayer, mentions that Judas, the son of perdition is in fulfilment of Scriture.

1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said,

Father, the hour is come; glorify Thy Son, that Thy Son also may glorify Thee:
2 As Thou hast given Him power over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as Thou hast given Him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know Thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom Thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified Thee on the earth,
I have finished the work which Thou gavest me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify Thou Me with Thine own self, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.
6 I have manifested Thy name unto the men which Thou gavest Me out of the world: Thine they were, and Thou gavest them Me; and they have kept Thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever Thou hast given Me are of Thee. 8 For I have given unto them the words which Thou gavest Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from Thee, and they have believed that Thou didst send Me.
9 I pray for them,
I pray not for the world, but for them which Thou hast given Me;
for they are Thine. 10 And all Mine are Thine, and Thine are Mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to Thee. Holy Father, keep through Thine own name those whom Thou hast given Me, that they may be one, as we are. 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Thy name: those that Thou gavest Me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Since the term "son of perdition is used only twice in Scripture, Here in John 17 in reference to Judas Iscariot and In Second Thessalonians in reference to the anti-Christ, I would have to agree that Judas is worse than a protitute.

But, that does not alter that fact that there is no Biblical evidence to suggest that Mary Magdelene was anything less than a chaste honest God fearing woman, devoted to serving the Lord God Creator of all things, Christ Jesus.

11 posted on 05/09/2003 2:35:50 PM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: sinkspur
Mary Magdalen was not a virgin.

And how would you know that?

I asked the author and he said this concerning your remarks about Mary Magdelene not being a virgin.

"While I can not find Scripture to support my saying that Mary Magdalene was a virgin, since I can find nothing in Scripture to suggest otherwise, I have given her the benifit of the doubt. as to the one making the claim that she was not a virgin, I would ask him what his Scriptural proof is for such a slanderous attack on the woman the Lord choose to first appear to."

12 posted on 05/09/2003 2:42:23 PM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
It is my understanding that Mary Magdalene, who is only described as having seven devils driven from her, was confused with the legendary prostitute Mary of Egypt ...

I must say, I had not heard that, no had the author.

13 posted on 05/09/2003 2:45:46 PM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: 2timothy3.16
Tell the author that I belong to a Church that values Tradition, and it has been a 2000 year understanding that Mary Magdalen was, in fact, a reformed prostitute.

Ask your author why he feels it necessary that Mary Magdalen necessarily be a virgin for Christ to have appeared to her after his resurrection?

We are at, how shall we phrase it, a stand still.

14 posted on 05/09/2003 3:02:42 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: 2timothy3.16; The_Reader_David
I pinged The_Reader_David. The Orthodox have some interesting stories about Mary Magdalene, one of which involves the conversion of an emperor and a red egg. I wonder if this is the Christian root of why we dye Easter eggs. I'll let David tell the story because he knows it better than I do.
15 posted on 05/09/2003 3:20:34 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: 2timothy3.16
read and study later
16 posted on 05/09/2003 4:03:40 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: 2timothy3.16
This guy is just nuts.

I browsed around his website, looked at his KJV-only article. I'm familiar with the debate, so I was intrigued to see what this guy's perspective is.

This is what he says:

What is the mark, the name and the number of the Beast?

The NASB and NIV do not clearly differentiate between the mark, the name and the number of the Beast. Please refer to the Watch Unto Prayer report on The Mark of the Beast, which provides convincing evidence that the Beast is the Assyrian-Babylonian god, Saturn, whom the apostate Israelites worshipped as Remphan (Acts 7:37-43). The name of blasphemy is the Tetragrammaton (YHWH, aka Yeshua) and the mark is the Six-Pointed Star or the Star of David.

Is this guy claiming, as I believe he is, that Jehovah is "the name of blasphemy?"

He's almost a freakin' Marcionist.

17 posted on 05/09/2003 8:26:29 PM PDT by jude24 ("Facts? You can use facts to prove anything that's even REMOTELY true!" - Homer Simpson)
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To: jude24
Thank you for bringing that page to my attention, I have relayed your comments to the site owner, he has taken that page down, after agreeing that the paragraph you referenced is not the way it should be.
18 posted on 05/10/2003 3:01:55 PM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Would you have him or would you ping me when he comments?

Thanks

19 posted on 05/10/2003 3:03:44 PM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: sinkspur
We are at, how shall we phrase it, a stand still.

More like a great gulf.

20 posted on 05/10/2003 3:05:54 PM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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