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Satan Joins The Moonies! ~Sun Myung Moon has often said that he came to restore everything that was lost. Man fell from the beginning, Moon says, Satan had a sexual relationship with Eve and sin entered the world, passed down through the lineage so that all are born as children of Satan rather than children of God. The Moonies are passionate about their belief that All will eventually be saved. Including Satan himself. Well, Moon's job to restore satan has suddenly become much easier: Satan Has Joined The Moonies! Satan Works For Moon Now! ~Right about now, some of you must think I am joking or something. Right? Well, I'm not! Recently, Moon claimed that Satan has repented of his historic sins, and even wrote a letter to God and Rev. Moon (This is what Moon actually claims!) and in the letter Satan said he was sorry for his sins. He also promised to start working hard for Rev. Moon from now on. Well, sadly Rev. Moon has not made very much progress in saving the world with only God on his side, but now that Satan has joined the team, maybe that will change? Here is a direct quote from Moon where he claims Satan has repented and is now working for the Moonies: Excerpted from: SUN MYUNG MOON LEADERS' MEETING May 1, 1996 East Garden Translator Peter Kim This is the way we can liberate Hell. Hell on the Earth and in the spiritual world will be liberated. You are presently residing in the physical hell of your physical body. How can we liberate this physical hell and then the spiritual hell? Now Grandmother Hong and Heung Jin Nim are working together to liberate hell in the spiritual world. They mobilized the fallen Archangel Lucifer. Even Lucifer has repented and confessed and is now being used to work to liberate all those evil spirits in this physical world as well as the spiritual world. Satan had repented Moon said. And so it was only right that Moon forgive satan and welcome him back into the family of God. Isn't it comforting for you to know that Satan is actually your friend and co-worker now? In a transcript of a prayer found on a Unification News Website in Korea, Moon had a little more to say about Satan, and he said it in a prayer to God: Excerpted from: True Parent's Prayer You gave Satan a chance to indemnify the faults that he committed. He did not love humanity as God's children but rather stole them from God and turned them against Him. The time when God could command Satan to correct his wrongs and clean up the fallen lineage came when God gave him the ultimatum on March 21. Satan apologized to God and claimed he would support Him to create the ideal garden of love. He confessed all his sins before True Parents to be forgiven. He confessed and apologized all he had done wrong to humanity. Please, Heavenly Father, take pity on him as he is asking for forgiveness from You and True Parents. As we, True Parents, unify heaven and earth, we bring peace between God and Satan and establish unity between God, Satan and humanity. We combined that unity into one single lineage of God. Well, what can you say? Satan is even more than a friend now. In the words above, Moon has basically called him "family". Are you sure you members really want to stay in the Unification Church at this point? You Can Safely Follow Satan! ~Satan and Moon have not just recently met, by the way. Oh no. They have been in quite a long term relationship. In fact, Moon has had some pretty fascinating (and bizzare) things to say about Satan over the years. He told his early followers that they could safely follow Satan. That's right. He told them that as long as they were sincere in following Satan, that Satan would not be able to handle their sincerity and he would eventually bring them to God himself. So, follow Satan, and he will bring you to God. I wonder what some of Moon's paid Christian Ministers would think about this guidance from Moon? Probably they wouldn't care, as those participating with Moon, do so because they share the same God: Money. Here is an excerpt that comes from a book by one of Moon's earliest followers, Won Pil Kim: Excerpted from: Won Pil Kim Father's Course and our Life of Faith Chapter 3 - Mistakes I'd like to tell you another story. Already 30 or 40 years before Father went up to North Korea there were religious groups there which had been prepared to welcome the Second Advent. Father visited one of them. One day he said to them: "If you believe Satan's word completely and absolutely to the end as God's word and if you attend him, even Satan will take you to God." Suppose you believe, learn and practice Satan's word completely and actually you attend Satan, Satan won't take you to himself but to God. Do you understand clearly? I'll explain it, taking an example. Take one brother -- Mr. Tanahashi. Now here is another brother who believes in and attends Mr. Tanahashi very much. But this brother has a misunderstanding that Mr. Tanahashi is John. He has a firm conviction that he is attending John, even though he is actually attending Mr. Tanahashi. Then is Mr. Tanahashi happy or not? Satan knows why people are attending him: they mistake Satan for God and attend him just as earnestly as they attend God. They listen to Satan's words absolutely. Then Satan can't make them his own since they believe completely that they are attending God, not Satan. Therefore Satan thinks they should go to God, not to him; Satan leads them to God. Suppose we happen to believe and follow even Satan's word as God's word; as long as we believe and follow it completely, we'll be led to God not to Satan. Father had this much faith -- it's incredible, isn't it? It's not "incredible", it's disgusting. And stupid too. The Bible says that Satan is a liar and a murderer, but Sun Myung Moon knows better than the Bible, and he is convinced that though Satan lies and murders, Satan would never be able to handle sincerity, and would politely bring people to the real God. Actually, it is not all that surprising that Moon would be so close to Satan. They have alot in common. The name Lucifer (who became Satan) actually means "Light Bearer". And interestingly, Moon's name "Sun Myung Moon" means: "Shining Truth". But the Bible also shares that Lucifer (satan) is an angel that disguises himself as light, and appears as light, but that in actuality, he is a liar and deceiver. The Bible calls satan: "That Ancient Serpent", and "The Dragon". Similarly, Moon's name "Sun Myung Moon" (Shining Truth) is not the name he was born with. Moon changed his name when he decided to pretend to be the messiah. Moon's real name is: "Young Myung Moon" which means: SHINING DRAGON in Korean. Hmmm....no wonder Moon loves Satan so much?     STRANGE BUT TRUE - SECTION Moon & Houdini Moon's African Son? Moon's "Spiritual" Mistresses Moonie Science Satan Joins The Moonies Moon Marries Jesus, and Hitler and...   HOME

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[Illbay]

Maybe "Little Nicky" has taken over since his dad's retirement. Maybe "Little Nicky" is the one causing all the problems now.

[Revelation 911]

how sweetly appropriate - you are the first one here and you bash an alternate religion, yet you have the grapes to post an LDS story and carp about others "bashing" LOL

As abhorrent as mooneyism is, its still SOMEONE faith system - and by JR's standard you are in violation

Repent ye goof

try talking about the weather - oops - cant do that either

[Corin Stormhands]

First, let it be understood that we have no quarrel with the Muslim people or with those of any other faith. We recognize and teach that all the people of the earth are of the family of God. And as He is our Father, so are we brothers and sisters with family obligations one to another. - LDS President Gordon B. Hinckley

Has there been new revelation since you posted President Hinckley's speech an hour ago?

Do you now have quarrel with people of other faith?

[Revelation 911]

First, let it be understood that we have no quarrel with the Muslim people or with those of any other faith.

Odd, muslims claim Christ as only a prophet - Now why would diminishing the trinity and basis of Christianity be tolerable to a Christian organization

We recognize and teach that all the people of the earth are of the family of God.

Ok - But Illbay doesnt see the Jews as "chosen" - by that measure they will not attain heaven. So it would appear Illbay is not doctrinally in step with Mormonism (kind of like a 4 point calvinist) - just dont lebel him an anti semite as thats not accurate.

And as He is our Father, so are we brothers and sisters with family obligations one to another. - LDS President Gordon B. Hinckley

I see this as a contradictory statement in contrast to the King Follet discourse of Joseph Smith which says man can be God

"God himself. was Once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. " - Joseph Smith KFD

OOOh this is all too confusing

Resty - can you explain it with a wiggly gif ?

[drstevej]

Here's an example of FR's pet, Illbay, bashing another religion. Is this where the bar is now set?

[Illbay]

Odd, muslims claim Christ as only a prophet - Now why would diminishing the trinity and basis of Christianity be tolerable to a Christian organization.

You misunderstand. There is a difference between not quarreling with another faith, and accepting the tenets of that faith.

I know that "not bashing another religion" is rather a new concept for you, but try to keep an open mind.

Ok - But Illbay doesnt see the Jews as "chosen" - by that measure they will not attain heaven.

I wonder if you're really so obtuse, or if you're deliberately being precious.

A Jew is not "chosen" simply because he is born a Jew. He is "chosen" only if he accepts Christ as the Messiah, is born again through faith, repentence and baptism.

You have a slippery, sliding definition of "bashing" and other such concepts. Perhaps they are too complicated for you.

OOOh this is all too confusing.

Oh, I guess I was right. How astute of me.

[restornu]

Resty - can you explain it with a wiggly gif ?

wiggly gif

I think you mean -

Animate

[freedomthinker]

Who among us can cast doubt on the faith of others. If you wnat to be heard when talking about your beliefs, then be prepared to listen to the beliefs of others. Pius arrogance is not what America is about.

[Corin Stormhands]

There is a difference between not quarreling with another faith, and accepting the tenets of that faith.

You mean like my saying "I'm not going to argue with you about Mormonism, but I think the tenets of your faith are heresy?"

Something like that?

Of course that's just my observation.

[Illbay]

How about "I have no quarrel with you"?

[Corin Stormhands]

But, from your actions, apparently you do.

[Revelation 911]

A Jew is not "chosen" simply because he is born a Jew. He is "chosen" only if he accepts Christ as the Messiah, is born again through faith, repentence and baptism.

.....and youve gleaned this from who?

Whos to say God hasnt or couldnt choose otherwise - Im from the free will side of Protestantism, yet you take this ten steps further and say God wouldnt do any such thing and the Jew MUST choose Jesus

He can do whatever he wants - Thats what a soveriegn God does

Youre comments are clearly anti semitic

Why its tolerated amazes me

[Illbay]

I guess that, since I believe no man is "chosen" (though all men are called), that means I'm Anti-Homo Sapiens.

[Illbay]

I simply object to your lies, mischaracterizations, and flippant attitude toward the sacred.

Otherwise, you're okay.

[Revelation 911]

that means I'm Anti-Homo Sapiens.

Im not entirely surprised - your anti everything else

[Illbay]

Aw, poor little "lamb"!

[Revelation 911]

I simply object to your lies, mischaracterizations, and flippant attitude toward the sacred.

......yet still desire in brotherly love to edify and raise you in all of my actions so that your eyes are opened to the reverent teachings of the prophet smith

Is that what you meant to say?

[Revelation 911]

Aw, poor little "lamb"!

call me mint jelly because Im on the lamb

Have a lovely day gentleman

Ole revs gots a date with his wife for lunch at the olive garden