[DittoJed2]

Here's another for ya.

[CCWoody]

"Scripture has always been understood very personally here: Christ died for you and he paid for your sins," Ware writes before quoting 1 Peter 2:24, "He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross."

"This [doctrine] is lost in open theism, and more importantly, the open view here is not what the Bible teaches." Boyd argues that Christ paid the price for "possible" future sins and that he "over-paid" for all the sins of the world.

Sanders and Boyd both argue that Ware's arguments against open theism can be equally applied to Arminianism, a model accepted within evangelicalism that, among other things, holds that God's election of sinners is based on foreknowledge.

Yep, you open theists, xzins and wc, have Jesus blood spilled in vain, the Father having the Son murdered in a willy nilly haphazard way where creation runs out of God's control.

Of course, I agree with Boyd in that "Ware's arguments against open theism can be equally applied to Arminianism."

[RnMomof7]

Just had a nice visit with Jean C and family:>) Flagged to the list..