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Heresy in the Church
website ^ | unknown | Blaise Pascal

Posted on 07/01/2002 6:50:15 AM PDT by Revelation 911

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1 posted on 07/01/2002 6:50:16 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: RnMomof7; fortheDeclaration; drstevej; xzins; winstonchurchill; P-Marlowe; patent
ping for discussion
2 posted on 07/01/2002 6:52:26 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
"My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6.

Amen!

3 posted on 07/01/2002 7:04:32 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration; RnMomof7; xzins; winstonchurchill; CCWoody
"Add thou not unto His words, lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar." Proverbs 30:6

As a calvin dubbed "romanist" - why is it all protestantism doesnt fall under the warning put forth in Rev 22:18 when we excluded the Apocrypha?

6) That Christ died alike for all, yea, that his salvific virtue of His death extends to all the reprobates as well as the elect, yea, to the very devils as well as unto men.

7) That Jesus Christ came into the world not for satisfaction, but for publication; not to procure for us and to us the love of God, but only to be a glorious Publisher of the Gospel.

Doesnt that fly in the face of John 3:16 - am I missing something?

] 14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.[5] 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[6] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.[7] 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."[8]

4 posted on 07/01/2002 7:34:00 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
Interesting that the post begins with a quote from a Catholic (Blaise Pascal).
5 posted on 07/01/2002 8:20:47 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper
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To: Revelation 911; fortheDeclaration; CCWoody
As I read these marks of heresy, I can't help but reflect that this man wasted my time. He could have just written, "that which is not calvinist is heresy."

Hate when people can't get to the point. Just say it, for pete's sake. (Woody, take heed.)

6 posted on 07/01/2002 8:40:49 AM PDT by xzins
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To: big'ol_freeper
Thanks for identifying my misattribute
7 posted on 07/01/2002 8:43:02 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: xzins
yeah - but what troubles me is hes constructed a 10 point system to justify the five point system which is another name for the (calvin) Gospels ....(a man made system)

Its kind of like those russian stacking dolls

8 posted on 07/01/2002 8:45:42 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
...and in English.... ????
9 posted on 07/01/2002 9:59:00 AM PDT by Frumanchu
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To: Frumanchu
- sorry - forgot my sarcasm tag
10 posted on 07/01/2002 10:10:33 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
I found heresy in this essay against heresy. And the man who wrote it has no authority to declare what is heresy and what it not. So.........nice try.
11 posted on 07/01/2002 11:22:22 AM PDT by Theresa
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I found heresy in this essay against heresy. And the man who wrote it has no authority to declare what is heresy and what it not. So.........nice try.

Take it up with the calvinists - Im Arminian - Its an arminian "bash" piece

Who exactly would have "authority" to declare heresy?.....Vicarivs Filii Dei?

& what exactly was my "nice try"?

12 posted on 07/01/2002 11:57:14 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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I thought the same thing as you with that post. Could be Theresa doesn't have the same historical perspective in the on going C v. A debate.

I chuckled to myself when I first saw the article and where it is from, then saw it was you who posted it. I didn't expect you to browse "those" type of sites.

13 posted on 07/01/2002 12:02:27 PM PDT by Wrigley
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Shes Catholic I believe - & has soundly ripped me as heretical for Mrs Rev being a pastor (If I recall correctly). Each is entitled to thier opinion - except - she came into this with a preconcieved notion - ...and got caught.

Yes I do cruise them (gads!)-

honestly they are interesting perspectives ( & no one yells) -

14 posted on 07/01/2002 12:17:10 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
& no one yells) -

That't can't be possible.

15 posted on 07/01/2002 12:20:19 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Theresa
I found heresy in this essay against heresy

Oh do share

16 posted on 07/01/2002 12:24:28 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
Even a doctrinal truth can be stretched to the point of heresy.
17 posted on 07/01/2002 12:54:10 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Revelation 911
Theresa is ok :>)

We must remember that Luther was addressing heresies of Rome when he nailed the paper to the door...Through the men of the reformation the heresies of that time were addressed.

Arminius and Wesley (in that time frame) worked to restore some of the faulty doctrine of Rome, Arminius was a pupet of the Jesuits.

Thus the battle rages on today. Wesleys doctrine is at its base more Roman than reformation IMHO . It is Romanism minus the saints,Mary , purgatory,and the ritual. But the theologial thrust is the same..

BTW That is from a favorite site of mine. There is actually some good stuff on there.

18 posted on 07/01/2002 1:08:00 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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calvin, studied for the priesthood until the prospect of power went to his head. He supported the committal of a number of atrocities in Geneva to appease Rome.

calvin = POPE CALVIN because he never gave up Augustine's idea of "the city of God" and "the city of Man." He fancied himself the "new age" pope and geneva the "new age city of God."

If anyone was the tool of romist thought it was calvin.

19 posted on 07/01/2002 1:20:36 PM PDT by xzins
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