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To: nate4one;RobbyS;jhavard;douglaskc;johnnym;paynoattentionmanbehindcurtain;ksen;havoc;xeniast...
A BUMP

...for those who think preterist eschatology is bankrupt.

Let freedom ring!!
2 posted on 04/08/2002 1:44:38 PM PDT by nate4one
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To: nate4one
As in chapter 8, He is MERCIFUL toward our iniquities (because grace itself tells us we cannot stop committing them). And in Chapter 10, He remembers them not.

Sin is mankind's great problem. Every evil of life is ultimately attributable to sin. Sin is something we do, not something that happens to us.

The Angel told Josph, Mary would bear a son and they would call His name Jesus, "for he shall save his people from their sins."

When Jesus healed the deaf and blind, we can be sure that the deaf could actually hear after they were healed, and the blind could actually see, after they were healed. Now the thing we are all afflicted with, that Jesus was promised to save us from is "sins," that is, actually committing sin.

I do not believe there is a single Christian on any of these threads that really believes Christ is able to save them from "sins". What most Christians believe is they are saved from the consequences of sin, but not sin itself. It would be like saving a blind man from bumping into things without actually restoring his sight and telling him he was healed.

Strange that all those who talk about the sovereignty of God, and how nothing depends on what men do, believe the act of a single human being could enslave an entire race of men, but the death of the living God, cannot free a single one from that bondage.

That's what men believe. But the bible says, "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." (1 Jo 3:9)

Of course the Christian answer to all such verses is not humble obedience, but that absudity that makes all "Christians," schizophrenics (old meaning) or spiritual Dr. Jekylls and Mr. Hydes. Two natures, indeed!

James says to all this, "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways." (1:8) Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. (4:8)

Peter characterizes those, "who cannot cease from sin," which sounds to me like your, "we cannot stop committing them," as follows: 2 Pet. 2:12-14 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children.

Are these Christians?

If 1 Cor. 10:13 and 2 Cor 9:8 are true, and you are truly a Christian, what possible excuse is there for ever disobeying God?

Hank

3 posted on 04/09/2002 5:42:02 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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