[Dr. Sivana]

I can listen to him without a problem. I will not follow anything he says that contradicts the Teaching of Christ.

Where were these folks during JP II and BXVI?

[irishjuggler]

“I can listen to him without a problem. I will not follow anything he says that contradicts the Teaching of Christ.”

That’s it exactly. Sure, we listen to him. We can’t help it. The man never shuts up. But we are only obligated to agree with him to the extent that his teachings embody the perennial Catholic faith. When he strays into heresy, we must resist him. When he pushes his pet political causes, we can’t be forced to follow him.

[ebb tide]

Pierre can't have it both ways.

Do we listen to Bergoglio or do we listen to the “spirit” in his evil Sin-Nod of Sin-Nods”?

Or is Jorge Bergoglio the actual “spirit”, the Zeitgeist” as Batzinger claims, of the Sin-Nod?