Posted on 08/26/2023 9:05:25 PM PDT by Morgana
For years, North Point Community Church, led by Andy Stanley, has been partnering with and promoting affirming LGBTQ+ organizations when desperate parents come to see them for help with their struggling gay children, all done through the Parent Connect Ministry.
Parent Connect is (was formerly?) led by Amy Blakeslee, an openly affirming queer woman, and is overseen by Debbie Causey, a gay-affirming, long-tenured pastor at North Point Community Church and the director of their Care network of ministries. Causey is also a board member at Renovus, a pro-LGBTQ+ activist and advocacy group led by many leaders within North Point church.
During a conversation about her book by gay-affirming North Point leaders Greg and Lynn MacDonald, Causey gets asked about recommendations for “safe” counselors, which is a coded word they use to describe affirming counselors. She recommends an organization called ‘The Christian Closet,’ which she represents as a “great group” that serves children and youth struggling with their identity, and McDonald agrees. (She also recommended struggling parents attend a Queer Parent Summit)
The Christian Closet is a collective of all-LGBTQ+ Christian counselors that offer virtual mental help on topics like depression, coming out, transitioning, starting your first queer relationship, deconstructing, dealing with trauma, and everything in between. It’s an “online therapeutic resource for people who are trying to work out what it means to have an LGBTQI sexual identity, or gender identity within a Christian context.”
This is not to say that some counselors are gay or that a majority are gay, but rather that all of them are gay, with their website reading ” all of our clinicians identify somewhere on the LGBTQ+ spectrum and have done the work of reconciling their faith with that.
One of those gay counselors is Matt Nightingale. He is the pro-choice lead co-pastor of The Quest Church and he recently married a man after being married to and divorcing his wife of 23 years. He is a “spiritual director” and “support group facilitator” and has been with the Christian Closet since 2019, where he is “passionate about the intersection of sexuality and spirituality” and creating a “safe, sacred space for people exploring these identities.”
Nightingale is also the director of the Common Sanctuary and recently joined Brian Nietzel’s on his “Making Things Right” project. Nietzel is a gay man ‘married’ to a ‘husband’ that is scheduled to speak at Andy Stanley’s upcoming ‘Embracing the Journey,’ bringing everything full circle.
Nightingale seems to like and appreciate Andy Stanley, or at least his book, and Stanley, in turn, has returned the favor with a recent tweet.
Recently, he had a very strong reaction to a song about LGBTQ folks being saved and then changed by the power of Christ to no longer walk in those identities, raging:
Imagine being a desperate parent from North Point Community Church with a struggling gay teen or even an older child who is confused about their attractions. You build up the courage to talk to a Care ministry worker and get recommended by trusted church pastors to get counseling at a ‘Christian’ group, only to have your loved one end up in Nightingale’s hands?
Andy Stanley’s church, when faced with a family who is in crisis because they think their child might be gay or non-binary, and is looking for some sound, biblical counseling and resources, directs the parents to pro-LBGTQ+ organization Embracing the Journey, and the kids to pagan pro-LBGTQ+ counselors at The Christian Closet.
There is no hope for children struggling with their sexuality if they’re going to these places to get this sort of help. The adults have stacked the deck against them. All the paths to freedom and deliverance have been taken away.
Lord, have mercy.
North Point Fag Church
“North Point Fag Church”
And pretending to be Christians.
Is Andy gay? I have to ask because almost every story I find on Protestia had something to do with gays.
My reading today was 1 Timothy 4-6, which included:
“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. “
The Bible repeatedly warns that in the End Times there will be a great Falling Away and I think we are seeing the start of it.
It’s Andy Stanley. No surprise. He doesn’t preach The Word why would he protect it?
This is right in front of the building in Google Maps.
You can navigate around to see it at angles and farther away.
Nothing of God about any of these.
I watched one of Andy’s sermons once to give it a fair hearing. I have never heard so much shallow pablum in my entire life. And it was far from biblical.
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