Believers in the 19th century Pre tribulation rapture philosophy
Posted on 02/12/2023 5:25:15 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
On Jan. 26, 2023, Tim Moore, CEO and Senior Evangelist at Lamb & Lion Ministries, wrote that Dr. David Reagan (founder of Lamb & Lion Ministries) met a man that said he wished he could live in biblical times.
Moore wrote that Reagan replied, “You do! You do live in biblical times! Open your eyes and see!”
The Bible teaches that:
Only God knows the day or the hour of our Lord’s return (Matt. 24:36).
Those who watch can know when it is near (Luke 21:28).
Those who watch can see the day approaching (Heb. 10:25).
According to the Bible, Jesus will come to this earth twice (called the first coming as a Lamb and a Second Coming as a Lion).
The Scriptures record hundreds of prophecies about the first coming of Jesus and hundreds more about the Second Coming of Jesus.
I had the great honor of being interviewed by Tim Moore, David Reagan, and Nathan Jones on Lamb & Lion’s Christ in Prophecy TV program a few years ago, and they seemed fascinated when I told them my grandson was interviewed on a TCT-TV program discussing the Book of Revelation when he was eight years old.
My grandson was asked if adults can understand the Book of Revelation, and his reply was, “If an eight-year-old kid can understand the Book of Revelation, an adult can understand it.”
Paul said, “God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty” (I Cor. 1:27).
There are thousands of people with multiple degrees that God could have chosen for that TCT-TV interview discussing the Book of Revelation, but He chose an eight-year-old boy.
Reagan got it right, “You do live in biblical times! Open your eyes and see!”
(Note: Today, there are plenty of resources available for a person to get a good understanding of most of the Book of Revelation, IF THEY WANT TO).
Here are a few signs that we are living in biblical times today.
One, concerning the Battle of Gog and Magog: on Jan. 31, 2023, it was reported that U.S. Sec. of State, Antony Blinken, visited Israel and said Russia and Iran are on a “two-way street.”
Blinken said, “Russia is supplying sophisticated weapons to Iran,” and Iran is supplying drones to Russia to “kill innocent Ukrainian civilians.”
These two nations, which were once enemies, are constantly growing closer together, just as the Bible says.
Two, also concerning the Battle of Gog and Magog: Israel has been sending supplies (blankets, first aid supplies, ambulances, etc.) to Ukraine but not weapons because Russia has troops and weapons in Syria that could be used to retaliate against Israel.
When U.S. Sec. of State Antony Blinken visited Israel on Jan. 31, 2023, Blinken urged Israel to do more to support the security of Ukraine.
On Feb. 2, 2023, Russia warned Israel against arming Ukraine.
A Russian spokesperson said, “Any attempts – implemented or even unrealized but announced for the supply of additional, new or some other weapons – lead and will lead to an escalation of this crisis. And everyone should be aware of this.”
It is interesting that Bible prophecy says Israel will have a great army at the end of the age, and the U.S. is asking Israel to do more to support Ukraine.
Why does NATO, the U.S. military, the EU, and Ukraine need Israel’s help?
Three, concerning wars and rumors of wars: Muslims have stepped up terrorist attacks in Israel, and Israel has stepped up its retaliation.
Violence is escalating, and the possibility of war is growing.
Four, concerning population control and abortion (the murder of children): on Jan. 30, 2023, U.S. Sec. of Health and Human Services, Xavier Becerra, said government looks for scientists and professionals that can give them a reason to declare emergencies.
Becerra said he is considering the possibility of declaring a public health emergency to promote abortion.
At the World Health Organization Assembly meeting on May 21-30, 2023, there will be a vote to make recent World Economic Forum (WEF) proposals global law.
If approved, one of those proposals will empower the head of the WHO (Director Gen. Tedros) to declare emergencies and regulate the healthcare of everyone on earth.
If one individual, such as Becerra or Tedros, is empowered to declare emergencies to promote a political agenda, the U.S. and the world will soon be subjected to the political agenda of the Antichrist.
Five, concerning a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) and tracking all buying and selling: in an article on the Exposé site on Feb. 3, 2023, Rhoda Wilson wrote, “The ‘pandemic’ may be over, but the agenda behind the unleashing of one or more deadly poisons and diseases and an even deadlier ‘cure’ is not. The Great Reset is moving forward, and if the populations of Western countries do not wake up, the final part of the central control grid may snap into place – the rollout of digital identities and CBDCs.”
(My opinion: Globalists are taking a 14-year (2016-2030 or sooner) step-by-step approach toward world government. They pass a few global laws in one week, wait and pass a few more global laws, wait, and pass a few more global laws, etc. They restrict the use of thousands of acres of land in one week, wait and restrict the use of thousands of acres of more land, wait, and do it again. It is like the myth of slowly raising the temperature of water on a frog in a pot. If you put the frog in hot water, he will jump out, but if you put the frog in tepid water and slowly raise the temperature, he will sit in the water until it kills him. Globalists are incrementally moving toward the New World Order and hoping that people won’t wake up until it is too late.).
Six, concerning CBDCs: the idea of the world going to a basket full of currencies first and eventually settling on a one-world currency has been around for more than 40 years (Google it).
In 2013, I wrote a book called God Has Spoken (And We Know It).
There were two more printings, but in the first printing, I wrote the following:
On March 19, 2009, the UN Commission of Experts on International Financial Reform suggested that the world drop the dollar as its Federal Reserve Currency. This panel (not prophecy buffs or religious nuts) wants to replace the dollar with a “basket of currencies” called “shared reserve currencies.” The intermediate goal of this panel is the creation of ten regional currencies or ten shared reserve currencies, but the ultimate goal is a one-world currency.
In Dec. 2015, Paul McGuire wrote the following in an article titled “MEGA DATA: WHAT THE FUTURE WILL BRING IN 2015”:
Now we add another major economic trend, the BRICS nations attempting to replace the dollar as the world’s currency with a new world currency composed of a basket of competing currencies.
Having said this, let’s fast forward to Feb. 4, 2023, and an article by Zero Hedge titled, “A Dollar Collapse is Now in Motion, Saudi Arabia Signals The End of ‘Petro Status.’”
According to Zero Hedge:
Globalist white papers and essays specifically outline the need for a diminished role for the U.S. currency as well as a decline in the American economy in order to make way for Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) and a new global currency system controlled by the IMF.
While globalists plot and plan for the end of the U.S. dollar and a single currency made up of a basket of digital currencies controlled by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Bible tells us that would only be temporary.
When he arrives on the world stage, Antichrist, indwelt by Satan, and the False Prophet will seize control of the global political system (Revelation 13:4), the global religious system (Revelation 13:11), and the global economic system (Revelation 13:16-18).
All three are being rebuilt to accommodate the final government.
Currently, 10 nations have launched a CBDC, and more than 100, including the U.S., are exploring their use of them.
I am not prophesying, but I believe the Bible teaches that the world will merge into 10 regions (10 groups of nations; called Regionalization) with 10 leaders (called the Ten Kings).
The Bible does not say this, but I would not be surprised if world leaders settle on 10 CBDCs (a basket of 10 digital currencies because more than 100 is too many).
As I understand it, after some initial rebellion by 3 leaders, God will cause the Ten Kings to merge their 10 regions, 10 militaries, and 10 currencies into a one-world government with one CBDC to fulfill His Word.
Will the Rapture be before the Ten Kings rise, after the Ten Kings rise, or at some point in between?
We don’t know, but I believe some of them could soon start coming onto the scene.
Seven, concerning potential corruption and betrayal of the U.S. in the Biden administration: on Feb. 4, 2023, it was reported that Sen. James Comer, chairman of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, has notified Biden’s Climate Change Czar, John Kerry, that he is under investigation for secret negotiations with the Chinese Communist Party that undermine the economic well-being of the U.S.
The committee has asked Kerry to supply relevant documents and accused him of failing to respond.
Eight, concerning an increase in the frequency and intensity of natural disasters at the end of the age, on Feb. 6, 2023 (Turkish time), a 7.8 earthquake (followed by a 6.7 aftershock about ten minutes later, and a 5.8 aftershock about an hour later) struck while people were sleeping at about 4 a.m. on a cold, snowy night about 20 miles from a major Turkish city.
Initial reports said many buildings have collapsed, more than 1,300 people have been killed, hundreds (perhaps thousands) more are trapped, the earthquake was felt in Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Egypt, and the aftershocks keep coming.
Hospitals, healthcare facilities, and medical and rescue workers are overwhelmed.
(More: At 1:24 p.m., following the first earthquake and aftershocks, a 7.5 earthquake struck. Statistics from the first earthquake were up to more than 1,300 killed, at least 5,383 injured, and more than 2,800 buildings destroyed. The report also said at least 473 people have been killed and more than 3,000 injured in Syria. Several nations, including Israel, are sending help.)
(More: On Feb. 8, 2023, the Associated Press (AP) reported that the death toll had topped 11,000 and was expected to keep climbing. There have been 120 significant aftershocks, at least 6,000 buildings have been destroyed, including hospitals, thousands of people need to be rescued, and 380,000 people are in shelters and hotels. A different report said the World Health Organization is predicting that the death toll could reach 20,000, and a third report said people are working in freezing temperatures, and time is running out.)
(Latest update as of Feb. 11: The death toll has surpassed 28,000.)
Finally, are you Rapture Ready?
If you want to be rapture ready and go to heaven, you must be born again (John 3:3). God loves you, and if you have not done so, sincerely admit that you are a sinner; believe that Jesus is the virgin-born, sinless Son of God, who died for the sins of the world, was buried, and raised from the dead; ask Him to forgive your sins, cleanse you, come into your heart and be your Saviour; then tell someone that you have done this.
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Maranatha!
Thanks, Roman.
We are indeed living in Biblical times. Thanks for the article Roman!
Great Article
Very timely.
Thanks for posting this.
It is debatable if the Bible actually says this. I may not be the best to debate it, but I know many fine men and scholars who do not believe that.
When Jesus comes to gather His Body of Believers in the Rapture event, that is not the second coming for He will gather us UP into the clouds to meet Him in the air. 1 John 3:2 says we shall be like Him when He gathers us up. The second coming He comes back to touch down at the Mount of Olives.
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No doubt about it
Nope, the PTR wasn’t taught before Irving and Darby, because it’s not scriptural, pure and simple.
“I am not aware that there was any definite teaching that there would be a SECRET RAPTURE of the Church at a SECRET coming, until this was given forth as an utterance in Mr. Irving’s Church, from what was there received as being the voice of the Spirit. But whether any one ever asserted such a thing or not, it was from that supposed revelation that the modern doctrine and the modern phraseology respecting it arose. It came not from Holy Scripture, but from that which falsely pretended to be the Spirit of God, while not owning the true doctrine of our Lord’s incarnation in the same flesh and blood as His brethren, but without taint of sin. p. 26.”
The Hope of Christ’s Second Coming: How is it Taught in Scripture? And Why? S. P. Tregelles. March 17, 1864.
****Tregelles was an EYEWITNESS to the event, when Margaret MacDonald made those utterances, and first time EVER hearing about the PTR theory.
Lol, I have fence posts out back with higher IQs than you display. The pre-trib has been taught as far back as the Essenes. But since you are incapable of learning there is no need to give you links to videos. Just be happy in your obsessions. The pre-trib gathering is soon. Then you can learn by example!
——>The pre-trib has been taught as far back as the Essenes.
Well, that was news to the likes of Irving and Darby, who all heard it FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. Samuel Prideaux Tregelles basically called it Satanic BS, as pointed out in post 11.
Edward Irving flipped out the FIRST TIME he read Jesuit Manuel De Lacunza’s book describing it. Irving transcribed the book from Spanish into English, and then TAUGHT it in his church. The PTR came from the Jesuits in the Catholic church, THE ANTICHRIST POWER. That is where your PTR theory came from, and nowhere else.
Francisco Ribera (Jesuit)
Cardinal Robert Bellarmine (Jesuit)
Michael Walpole (Jesuit)
Manuel De Lacunza (Jesuit)
Edward Irving
John Nelson Darby
ETC...
If the PTR doctrine is biblical truth, WHY had none of these biblical scholars ever heard of it? Why can’t you explain such a simple question? And WHY would a biblical scholar, like Samuel Prideaux Tregelles, who was an eyewitness to Margaret McDonald’s utterances, call it Satanic BS?
http://www.biblelightinfo.com/antichrist.htm
Why can’t I explain to the satisfaction of a dead soul like you? lol ... the explanations are not difficult and right before your face. You ought to know who defied the History of Christianity fro about 300AD to the reformation. You don’t want the truth you want to tell God how He must accept you and your filthy works. Like a giggling fool you dismiss Ken Johnson, Tommy Ice, Andy Woods, Gary Stearman, etc. because they reject your cult. You are a fool and this is possibly the last time I will waste on you, unless I choose to expose more of the satanic heart of your cult.
BTW, cultboi, do you have a clue when the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered which reveal such a rich History of the Essenes who were hated by the Pharisees and hunted down and murdered? You don’t want truth, you want your fantasies, like all cultbois do.
I believe the reason you won’t answer those simple questions, is because you can’t, and you are ashamed of it. Same goes for your Prophecy Watcher dopes. If you had the answers, you’d shove them down my throat. But you can’t, because you have nothing, because there is nothing.
“It came not from Holy Scripture, but from that which falsely pretended to be the Spirit of God, while not owning the true doctrine of our Lord’s incarnation in the same flesh and blood as His brethren, but without taint of sin.”
And the dark ages were any better for non Catholics?
From post 13: Simple questions that you refuse to answer.
If the PTR doctrine is biblical truth, WHY had none of these biblical scholars ever heard of it? Why can’t you explain such a simple question? And WHY would a biblical scholar, like Samuel Prideaux Tregelles, who was an eyewitness to Margaret McDonald’s utterances, call it Satanic BS?
We do not know the day or hour but we are commanded to know the season
And as we are nearing the end, there are biblical scholars wo are being given insights not seen generally for nearly two thousand years. That the Dead Sea Scroll contain references to the Rapture before the Tribnulation is not refutable, only denied by culbois.
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