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Ex-gays respond to Rev. Andy Stanley’s claim that LGBT people have ‘more faith than a lot of you’
Christian Post ^ | 02/08/2023 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 02/08/2023 7:32:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/08/2023 7:32:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Gays aren't "marginalized" in the body of Christ. It's a phony perception based on a reaction by Christians fighting back against being told to embrace various forms of hedonism.

Nobody demands Christians embrace theft, therefore chronic thieves don't hear us talk about than sin much. The same with other sins like lying or even heterosexual hedonism -- we're not forced to embrace them therefore we don't argue against them as vocally.

2 posted on 02/08/2023 7:36:46 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

LGBT people only want one thing and it’s not Religion


3 posted on 02/08/2023 7:41:00 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: SeekAndFind
I have been to a lot of different churches and have never seen anybody express hatred for gay people or a desire to mistreat them or mock them.

The issue of homosexuality has never seemed to be a main focus of any sermon or bible study I have attended. When it is brought up at all it is simply as an example of one of the ways in which fallen human kind has become sinful.

On the other hand when I have been among those who were woke and who did not know I was not woke I have heard the assumption that all Christians were like the West Borough Babtist Church.

4 posted on 02/08/2023 7:42:05 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: SeekAndFind

Love the sinner, hate the sin....................


5 posted on 02/08/2023 7:42:18 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SeekAndFind
My Catholic Church is filled with such deluded and poisonous pro-homosexual fools also.

LGBT individuals who go to church have “more faith than a lot of you.”

Insert the words "drug addict," "wife beater," "porn watcher," or "bank robber" where they say "LGBT" - and would they dare say such stupid things?

6 posted on 02/08/2023 7:42:22 AM PST by PGR88 (, )
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To: SeekAndFind

Pastor Stanley wants to tap into a new revenue source for his “mega church”.


7 posted on 02/08/2023 7:43:01 AM PST by allendale
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Another “Church” that needs to be taxed.


8 posted on 02/08/2023 7:46:44 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Faith” or just gumption??


9 posted on 02/08/2023 7:47:55 AM PST by Wuli
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“they have more faith than I do”

So he’s admitting that he has less faith than an unrepentant sinner. Seems like he should retire as a pastor if that’s the case.


10 posted on 02/08/2023 8:06:58 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: AndyTheBear

Good point.

I’ve never heard a sermon or any long homily where the whole point is about homos.

It’s simply part of doctrine.

Of course, in this day and age, where almost all churches are apostate, I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re lectured about how we have to be nice. Just like libs everywhere condescendingly lecture and slander us.

(I don’t go to church in long time - and far too many are apostate that I’m afraid to.)

(BTW, it’s Westboro BC.)


11 posted on 02/08/2023 8:10:04 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They just don’t want to give up their sinful lifestyles, thinking they can be in both kingdoms at the same time.


12 posted on 02/08/2023 8:11:19 AM PST by Old Yeller
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Well, I guess that’s what you get when you develop a church of the personality, which is mostly what “megachurches” are. And not many of them have any real training.


13 posted on 02/08/2023 8:13:16 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus denounced those who put conditions on their willingness to follow Him, like the young man who was close to the Kingdom, but couldn’t part with his wealth, or the man who asked for leave to bury his parents before becoming a disciple. We are all guilty of this to some extent, but in this case, gays are saying, “I like what you’re saying, but just let me keep this one little sin.”


14 posted on 02/08/2023 8:18:06 AM PST by I-ambush (We watched the moment of defeat, played back over on the video screen. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Pastor Stanley inventing his own theology.

Probably sees himself standing in place of Lot, and welcoming those poor mistreated LGBT souls into his home to demonstrate God’s love and compassion.

Certainly, he would have never criticized them for acting on their passions. Certainly, Stanley would have understand they were to be encouraged to be true to themselves.


15 posted on 02/08/2023 8:18:26 AM PST by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Poor 'lil Travon bees slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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"Ex-gays respond to Rev. Andy Stanley’s claim that LGBT people have ‘more faith than a lot of you [??? emphasis added]’"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

The Holy Spirit led Paul to write in 1 Corinthians 6:9, warning believers against same-sex sexual relationships in that passage, saying "do not be deceived" about such things.

The Spirit also led both Paul and Peter to warn Christians to be on guard against people who distort the scriptures, Paul in Galatians 1:6-9, Peter in 2 Peter 3:16.

16 posted on 02/08/2023 8:27:23 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: SeekAndFind

Andy Stanley obviously missed the entire part of the Gospel messages where Jesus spoke of the wheat and the tares.
For Pete’s (i.e., St. Peter’s) sake. If you were born in a garage would that make you a car (or a lawnmower)?
The notion that everyone who attends church at Andy Stanley’s place is a Bible-believing Christian is Biblically unsupportable IMO.


17 posted on 02/08/2023 8:49:20 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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"For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust, . . . Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given us His Holy Spirit." 1 Thess 4:3-8
18 posted on 02/08/2023 8:53:54 AM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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Stanley acknowledged that there were verses in the Bible that condemned homosexuality, but then added, “oh my goodness, a gay man or woman who wants to worship their heavenly Father, who did not answer the cry of their heart when they were 12 and 13 and 14 and 15. God said, ‘No,’ and they still love God?”

I am secular but this is a clear case of blasphemous utterance

19 posted on 02/08/2023 9:04:04 AM PST by robowombat ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Christians always get into trouble when they try to justify their sin.


20 posted on 02/08/2023 9:07:35 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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