[Nextrush]

The Pope and Erdogan of Turkey are on the same wavelength regarding Ukraine.

In 2014 a coup was staged in Ukraine by outside forces the US and allied elements to overthrow the pro-Russian government there beginning this provocative policy that led to this moment.

If the “Conservatives” or perhaps the “Neconservatives” not real ones IMHO want to keep everyone loyal to the RINO’s of the GOP who preach against Putin blame Obama for 2014 and Biden in 2022 say it was the Democrats fault.

[BroJoeK]

Nextrush: "In 2014 a coup was staged in Ukraine by outside forces the US and allied elements to overthrow the pro-Russian government there beginning this provocative policy that led to this moment."

Non-nuclear Ukraine was never a threat to nuclear-armed Russia -- Russia with 30 times the land area and three times the population.
A change in Ukraine's government is no more a casus belli than would be a change in Mexico's or Canada's governments.
Further, Ukraine has had eight presidential elections, including two since the events of 2014.
Ukraine's current government is not the result of a western-engineered coup.

Nextrush: "...blame Obama for 2014 and Biden in 2022 say it was the Democrats fault."

Of course it's the Democrats' fault -- it always is.
Both Obama and Biden were/are weak and weakness provokes rulers like Putin.
But that is no reason to say Ukrainians, Europeans or Americans must now lay down, roll over and do whatever the Russian dictator demands.
Regardless of our Democrats' provocative weakness, the West must stand strong against Putin, or in very short order the world will be ruled over by such men as Putin & Xi.

Freedom is not free.