Posted on 06/07/2021 5:31:47 PM PDT by ebb tide
Ping to my #14.
Yeppers.
As I often say: people I don’t trust wanting me to do something.
It’s amazing to me how much people blindly trust “experts” ... as the old story about how to tame wild hogs go, they’re so used to the free food and the fences put up one by one that they aren’t even noticing the gate getting shut for good.
Already have two vaccines that didn’t use fetal stem cells for any part of their research, development, or testing: Pfizer and Moderna. Sure, some are uncomfortable with the “newness” of the mRNA platform. Fair enough. But neither of them used fetal stem cells to make their vaccines.
And when each of the vaccine candidates listed above start wrapping up their Phase 3 clinical trials, they’ll have to submit their vaccine candidate to a third party for independent testing. That third party may - at their discretion - use fetal stem cells for that part of the process. However, the company going for FDA approval or Emergency Use Authorization has no means to control that. The third party has complete autonomy over their own testing process.
So while Pfizer and Moderna had their vaccines bottled, frozen, and ready to ship to hospitals before the third party independent testing took place, the lab doing that confirmatory testing chose to do so using fetal stem cells. Now a reasonable read here is that a product that never use fetal stem cells to be made isn’t suddenly tainted because someone did after-the-fact testing that was unethical with the product. To claim otherwise is to claim that if a lab bought a bottle of Tylenol off the shelf at Walgreens and tested it with fetal stem cells, all Tylenol forever would be tainted by abortion. That’s an absurd position to take.
They both use aborted baby cells in their testing so no. Try again
Not true. Both Pfizer and Moderna used the HEK-293 cell line (developed from the murder of a baby girl) for testing.
Update: COVID-19 Vaccine Candidates and Abortion-Derived Cell Lines
I agree and these are not vaccines, a vaccine is generally a dead virus or bacteria made into a drug. The mRna is gene therapy.
It’s arguable that the vaccine industry is more evil than planned murder
It’s a tight race for most evil
It absolutely does use DNA, but only in the host cells. They settled on a species of moth which gave the best and most reliable results. (No, I have no idea how they decided on that.)
Similarly, Moderna uses bacteria cells to get their mRNA.
The problem came in when the regulatory bodies insisted on testing using fetal stem cell lines.
It’s not clear if Novavax will escape that requirement, but their process (at least as far as they have publicly disclosed) has no dependence on fetal cells.
It all started with a aborted baby. Make all the excuses you want.
Already have two vaccines that didn’t use fetal stem cells for any part of their research, development, or testing: Pfizer and Moderna
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That is a lie.
“It absolutely does use DNA, but only in the host cells. They settled on a species of moth which gave the best and most reliable results. (No, I have no idea how they decided on that.)”
You don’t understand the biology.
You’re mixing up the expression system used with the final vaccine.
No DNA or RNA is in the Novavax vaccine.
I’m not making excuses. Just pointing out the fact many neglect when it comes to where these cell lines come from. Why they are morally tainted.
I should have been more clear. That’s the point I was trying to make, in contradistinction to the Moderna approach. Which is also a rather elegant design in and of itself.
Plus no dead babies, which is a plus.
Got ya!
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