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Will Only A Few People Be Saved? No. A Great Multitude Will Be Saved.

Posted on 05/26/2021 7:40:47 AM PDT by JAG 5000

Will Only A Few People Be Saved? No. A Great Multitude Will Be Saved.

By JAG

May 25, 2021

Do these Bible verses teach that Christians are now, and will be in the future, few in numbers? No. Luke 12:32's "little flock." Matthew 7:14's "only a few find it." Matthew 22:14's "many are invited, but few are chosen."

Rev.7:9-10 forever and irrefutably settles this issue: The numbers of the saved are not a "little flock" and not "only a few." Are the following people Christians? Yes or No? John saw, "a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language standing before the throne . . . They were wearing white robes . . . and they cried out in a loud voice: Salvation belongs to our God . . . and to the Lamb." To say No they were not true Christians is an absurd interpretation of Rev. 7:9-10. To say Yes they were true Christians totally and absolutely eliminates Luke 12:32's "little flock" and Matthew 7:14's "only a few find it" from being historically predictive of the numerical size of the Christian Church ~~ unless you want to claim that "a great multitude that no one can count" really means "only a few."

Jesus was asked specifically, "Lord are only a few people going to be saved?" Luke 13:23. If only a few people are going to be saved this was a golden opportunity for Jesus to establish that truth, but Jesus did not reply yes only a few people will be saved, instead He replied with an exhortation for people to "make every effort" to enter through the narrow door. We now know, 21st century, why Jesus did not reply yes only a few people will be saved: There are over 2.3 billion Christians in the world today, and 2.3 billion is not "only a few" Christians. Jesus knew that His Christian Church was going to become "a great multitude that no one could count from every nation, tribe, people and language" and this is why He did not reply yes only a few will be saved. He knew an uncountable multitude would become Christians and be saved. And now you too know that ~~ because Rev. 7:9-10 says so.

Abraham's Offspring. God took Abraham outside and said, "Look up at the sky and count the stars ~ if indeed you can count them. Then He said to him, so shall your offspring be." Genesis 15:5 (see also Genesis 22:17-18 and Genesis 13:16) These offspring, in number like the stars, were either the children of God or the children of Satan. To have God telling Abraham that He would give him offspring in numbers like the stars, the majority of whom would be children of Satan, is an absurd interpretation of Genesis 15:5. So? So Abraham's children-of-God-offspring, in numbers like the stars, cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few" in numbers. And Paul says in Gal. 3:7 "understand then that those who have faith are children of Abraham" and in Romans 4:16 Paul says, "Abraham. He is the father of us all." So? So Abraham's offspring includes the Christian Church. And it's time to face the truth: The final numbers of the saved are going to be in numbers like the stars in the sky because that's what God said in Genesis 15:5

In order to escape Huge-Church-In-Numbers-Like-The-Stars, John Tiny Church must interpret Genesis 15:5 to say this: God took Abraham outside and said look up at the sky and count the stars ~~ if indeed you can count them. Then God said so shall your offspring be ~ and by the way the majority of them will be children of Satan. John Tiny Church wants to escape the truth/fact that Abraham's offspring, in numbers like the stars, are mostly the children of God, because this means that Luke 12:32's "little flock" and Matthew 7:14's "only a few find it" can not be interpreted as historically predictive of the future numerical size of the Christian Church and John Tiny Church does not like that. John Tiny Church prefers an interpretation of the Bible that forever presents Christendom as a "little flock" and "only a few."

There are over 14,500,000 Southern Baptists in the United States and 14,500,000 Christians cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few."

John Tiny Church: The majority of them are not true Christians.

Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God so you don't know.

I'm going to repeat this several times because this truth/fact must be established and strongly emphasized ~ that John Tiny Church does not have the wisdom, power, and authority to issue his personal proclamation saying the majority of Christendom's 2.3 billion Christians are not true Christians. There are hundreds of millions of Christians in the world 21st century and Christendom is no longer a "little flock" or "only a few" and the one and only way John Tiny Church can escape the truth/fact of Huge-Church-In-Numbers-Like-The-Stars is to claim that the majority are not true Christians. So? So I'm going to repeatedly tell John Tiny Church the truth: Only God can know and he is not God so he does not know.

There are over 1300 Protestant Christian mega-churches in the United States with a weekly attendance of over 2000. That many Christians cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few."

John Tiny Church: The majority of them are not true Christians.

Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God so you don't know.

There are over 3000 Catholic Churches in the world with a weekly attendance of over 2000. This many Christians cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few."

John Tiny Church: The majority of them are not true Christians.

Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God so you don't know.

Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, South Korea has about 480,000 members. That many Christians cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few."

John Tiny Church: The majority of them are not true Christians.

Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God so you don't know.

There is a huge underground Christian Church in China. "In 2018 the Chinese government declared there were 44 million Christians in China." However there are some international Christian organizations that say there are tens of millions more in China's underground Christian Church. This many Christians cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few."

John Tiny Church: The majority of them are not true Christians.

Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God do you don't know.

When was the Christian Church a "little flock" and "only a few"? Answer: In the 1st century during the public ministry of the Lord Jesus. These verses . . . Luke 12:32's "little flock" Matthew 7:14's "only a few find it" Matthew 22:14's "many are invited but few are chosen" describe conditions that existed in the 1st century at the time they were written. We now know they cannot be interpreted as being historically predictive of the present and future numerical size of Christendom which is in numbers "a great multitude that no one can count, from every nation, tribe, people and language." Rev.7:9-10

"I say to you that MANY will come from the east and west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of Heaven." __The Lord Jesus Matthew 8:11

"For just as through the disobedience of the one man (Adam) the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man (Jesus) the MANY will be made righteous." Romans 5:19

"For those God foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the first born among MANY brothers and sisters." Romans 8:29

"In bringing MANY sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering." Hebrews 2:10

"For even the Son Of Man did not some to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for MANY."__The Lord Jesus Mark 10:45 (Jesus could have said "for a few" but He didn't. Jesus said "for MANY.")

Question For John Tiny Church: Is it your position that "few" in Matthew 7:14 means few? But "many" in Mark 10:45 really means few?

If "many" in Mark 10:45 really means many, then many, not a few, are going to be saved. Isn't that right, John Tiny Church?

The Lord Jesus: "I will build my church.

John Tiny Church: True, but it will ALWAYS be ONLY a "little flock" and few in numbers.

The Apostle John: "I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language . . . they were wearing white robes . . . and they cried in a loud voice, salvation belongs to our God . . and to the Lamb." Rev. 7:9-10

Thank You Father, Lord Jesus, Holy Spirit for The Cross and for saving an uncountable multitude of we fallen sinful human beings. We praise Your name and we love you.

JAG

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Worship
KEYWORDS: hope; saved; victory; winning

1 posted on 05/26/2021 7:40:47 AM PDT by JAG 5000
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To: JAG 5000

You might have a point if church attendance is the determination of who is born again and who is not.


2 posted on 05/26/2021 7:43:50 AM PDT by fatboy
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To: JAG 5000
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

I think he was referring to everyone who is caught up in the world's greed and temptations. Pretty much most of us. But the next few verses gives the key:

The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, "Who then can be saved?"

Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God."

So we are saved through grace, not our own efforts. But that still leaves open the criteria by which God decides to save us.

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
3 posted on 05/26/2021 7:57:02 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: JAG 5000

4 posted on 05/26/2021 8:22:49 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: JAG 5000

In our sinfulness we have grown to be a population of 8billion souls, pushing the boundaries of our gravity well onto other planets, conquering diseases, etc.

Just think how large our population will be at the end of Christ’s thousand year millennial kingdom— how many diseases will be conquered, how many planets colonized, how many souls saved. Surely 2.3 billion souls will seem like a drop in the bucket compared to trillions of souls ✨ saved during that timeframe.


5 posted on 05/26/2021 8:24:27 AM PDT by Kevmo (The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

Yet just a few verses after Jesus says this in the book of Luke we see the story of Zacchaeus - a rich man who was saved by the grace of God through belief in Jesus.

6 posted on 05/26/2021 8:57:56 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: JAG 5000
Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God so you don't know.

1 John tells us to test all spirits to see if they are of God. So, yes, we can know.

1 Thess 4:1-8 says anyone who rejects God's command against sexual immorality has rejected God. This means if a church is pro-gay, they aren't of God and we can know it.

Those multitudes in heaven are the accumulation of 2000+ years of real converts.

When the Communist Russia persecution began against Christians, the average church dwindled from 300 to 15. That is a 95% falling away. The same will happen here, so church attendance can't be used to support your argument.

7 posted on 05/26/2021 9:39:59 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: JAG 5000

Jehovah Witness allows 144,000 ppl into “heaven”.

My co-worker had a hard time explaining this one. She of course was one of the elect.

And a Mormon woman had difficulty explaining that Mormons marry in heaven, when the Good Lord said that there is not marriage in heaven.


8 posted on 05/26/2021 9:48:45 AM PDT by BarbM (FU Pence. You refuse to be alone with a woman, but have no compunction in screwing the USA)
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To: JAG 5000

Independent Baptists will be shocked to discover that they are not the only ones in heaven.


9 posted on 05/26/2021 10:02:54 AM PDT by lurk ( )
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To: JAG 5000

A Historic Premillennialist, which believe in a singular post-tribulational second coming, as opposed to Dispensational Premillennialism which believe in a pre-tribulational rapture, have no problem believing a great number indeed will be saved:

“I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues...,” Rev. 7:9.

Verse 14 says of them: “These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”


10 posted on 05/26/2021 10:20:12 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: Telepathic Intruder

What’s the will of the Father so folks know?


11 posted on 05/26/2021 10:42:52 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Kevmo

I personally believe more will be damned to hell during the Millennium, especially at the end when they physically attack Christ Himself in Jerusalem than all of the other periods in time combined.

Revelation 20:8 is the clue as to how many.
YMMV with your personal interpretation


12 posted on 05/26/2021 10:50:01 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: circlecity
Well..it has to be noted.... that Zacchaeus- was saved ONLY AFTER he DID something- only after giving up half of his loot to the poor (no longer rich perhaps) and squaring up with all those he had cheated.(Repentance and Penance)

Though who among us has a strong enough belief in Jesus to give up half of we own to the poor?? This is a hard saying.to be sure...

13 posted on 05/26/2021 12:50:03 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("And no man can say the Lord Jesus, but by the Holy Ghost.")
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Hewbrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

Knowing God's will is a matter of wisdom. It may be different for each, but the knowledge always comes from a diligent search.

Isaiah 55:9 As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

The will of the Father comes from knowing what God considers right and wrong, not your own idea of it.
14 posted on 05/26/2021 1:22:48 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: MurphsLaw

Abraham believed God and it was credited tohi as righteousness.

And that was BEFORE he did anything.

Works do not cause salvation, they are the fruit of it.

Catholic works doctrine is not Scriptural and hence has only one source.


15 posted on 05/26/2021 4:20:24 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: MurphsLaw

What if Zacchaeus had been a very poor tax collector?
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Do you think he could have been saved?
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Good thing we serve a Merciful God.
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1 Timothy 2:1–4 KJV
1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
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John 3:16-17 KJV
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.


16 posted on 05/26/2021 5:12:01 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: MurphsLaw
“Well..it has to be noted.... that Zacchaeus- was saved ONLY AFTER he DID something- only after giving up half of his loot to the poor”

That’s not true at all. Zacchaeus was saved when Jesus called him from the tree and he “received him joyfully.” It was after that he gave much of his wealth. Works are a consequence not a catalyst of salvation.

17 posted on 05/27/2021 6:53:59 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: metmom
Works do not cause salvation, they are the fruit of it.

Catholic works doctrine is not Scriptural and hence has only one source.

Show me where the Catholic doctrine says "works cause Salvation" - No where does the Church doctrine suggest this--- you are speaking falsely.

The Dogma of the Church is that we are only saved by Grace- and that God's Grace is totally unmerited. THAT is Catholic doctrine. If anyone tells you otherwise- they are lying to you.
As we grow - accountably - onto our own mortal death - we must begin to “work out our salvation with fear and trembling - in unity with the Holy Spirit in COOPERATION WITH THAT GRACE through Faith AND obedience. Obedient - (to do something) - to do the will of the Father

Abraham's Faith was tested - His obedience in cooperation with God's Grace saves him. Sacrificing Isaac- obedience to that Grace through his Faith saves him. If Abraham had DONE nothing- but still believed in his God- with all his heart- but still only up to a point... Would he still be Righteous? Could he have Faith without having to have been obedient to it?

Do you think Zacchaeus is still saved - that salvation could come to his house- if he did not "do something" obedient to that Faith. (Repentance for his trespasses) - and did not show the cooperative Will of his Faith - yet still believed in Christ as Savior...?

That's the Abraham moment. Metanoia. Transformation through total obedience. Would we fear giving half of what we own to the poor? We all would... Does Christ ask us to do so? Or are we to be like Zacchaenus?
18 posted on 05/27/2021 8:10:46 AM PDT by MurphsLaw ("And no man can say the Lord Jesus, but by the Holy Ghost.")
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Good points!
I would add John 6:39-40 as well:

John 6:39-40
39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Maybe John 6:27 also?

Do not work for food that perishes, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on Him God the Father has placed His seal of approval.”

Far too many people have their own idea of right and wrong and pay for it, eternally. Sad but true.


19 posted on 05/27/2021 10:33:15 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: circlecity
Zacchaeus was saved when Jesus called him from the tree and he “received him joyfully.”

Wut?

Or more likely.. .. Greeted him- welcomed him - Joyfully Gladly- rejoicing - with Joy...

The Greek translations of received and joyfully of this verse are not that abundant in the NT... and certainly do NOT suggest a saving that you are attempting to assign to them...

The little guy climbed down from the tree ... as Jesus requested of him- to stay at his house... in front of the crowd that wondered why Christ would have anything to do with the sinful tax collector...it is a showing of a happy acceptance for the sinner, that's all.... not salvation..
20 posted on 05/27/2021 11:05:43 AM PDT by MurphsLaw ("And no man can say the Lord Jesus, but by the Holy Ghost.")
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