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To: Darth Gill
“Full 5 pointer here.. Limited atonement makes rational sense, but people cannot and will not believe unless the Spirit convinces them. Faith is a GIFT.”

The Spirit calls, but does not “convince” anyone.

I do not understand how “faith” can be a “gift.” Surely, it is not listed as a “spiritual gift” provided by the Holy Spirit, of which no one has all the gifts.

Of course, you could say one has the gift of tongues but has no gift of faith, but that seems inherently ingenuous to most people.

46 posted on 05/24/2021 12:20:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind
There is A gift, and then there are THE gifts.
87 posted on 05/25/2021 5:04:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ConservativeMind
I do not understand how “faith” can be a “gift.” Surely, it is not listed as a “spiritual gift” provided by the Holy Spirit, of which no one has all the gifts.

But faith IS listed as a "spiritual gift" provided by the Holy Spirit:

To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit... (I Corinthians 12:8,9)

117 posted on 05/25/2021 8:50:21 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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