Posted on 03/21/2021 1:35:16 PM PDT by ebb tide
Pope Francis has never been known to hold a strict view of documents from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF). In 2016, a reporter asked him about a 2003 CDF document prohibiting recognition of gay civil unions. He replied, “I do not remember that document well.” In fact, as archbishop of Buenos Aires, he had disregarded the document’s directive and endorsed legislation in favor of gay civil unions.
Another indication of his casual view of CDF documents was his advice in 2013 to a group of liberal religious visiting him from the Caribbean and Latin America. Don’t fear corrections from the CDF, he told them: “Perhaps even a letter of the Congregation for the Doctrine [of the Faith] will arrive for you, telling you that you said such or such thing. But do not worry. Explain whatever you have to explain, but move forward. Open the doors, ...
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There should be no Catholic “Left” except for those who have “left” the Church because they can no longer obey its Doctrines.
Those “Left” Catholics are ok with me. They have a far better chance of redemption outside the Church than staying inside and profaning the Sacraments and causing more strife for the rest of us.
I want to believe, but the Bible was written by unknowing superstitious men (flat world et.al) and organized religion with its ever changing doctrines doesn't compute in my rational mind.
Leftists can’t be true Catholics...or Christians for that matter.
Jesus Christ, who I do believe lived and was one of the greatest humans to ever exist? Not sure about the Son of God.
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If you believe Jesus Christ was great then you must believe He was not a liar. If He was not a liar when He said he was The Son of The Living God then He must be what He said He was, anything else and He was a liar and not great.
He was and is as the Apostle Peter called Him, “The Son of The Living God.” No one had to tell this to Peter, He gained it by revelation.
Jesus said “if you know me than you know the one who sent me.”
Just one of them? No wonder you're...
Not sure about the Son of God.
I don’t believe he was a liar, but also not sure if the Apostles and their writings are factual from that time. I don’t know and I’ve tried all my life to believe. I just have difficulty with writings from men who still thought the World was flat and the Sun revolved around the Earth. They didn’t even know what lightening was nor what the stars in night sky were. They had no concept of the natural world around them. Sorry, but without empirical evidence, I’m an agnostic. I hope there IS more.
They had no concept of the natural world around them. Sorry, but without empirical evidence, I’m an agnostic. I hope there IS more.
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Just several years ago Mankind was sure that gravity was as Newton described it, a force like magnetism. based on that information and thought we went to the moon and back. Today we realize that gravity is not a force but a bending of space time that affects us like a force would. Does that make everything we learned before that untrue? I think not.
I’m in my 8th decade of life. My experiences tell me that there is a God and He has a Son who redeems us from our evil and sinful ways if we want. His Name is Jesus Christ and just the same way that Peter knew it I know it. You should ask Him to tell you. He will.
You need some PRAYERS to help you.
You won’t find it, if you dont look.
But nowadays left == sodomy and all other issues are incidental.
The sodomy religion is one that spreads by infiltrating and subverting existing religions.
They've already got the "mainline" Protestants and the Reform Jews. Now is the Roman Catholics' turn.
Interesting that the Pope puts up a fight this time.
Stop guzzling the Gnu Atheist kool-aid.
By definition, God is supernatural; models of the natural world are not sufficient to explore metaphysics and theology; rather, science imports naturalism and then pretends to have discovered it.
“...men who still thought the World was flat and the Sun revolved around the Earth.....”
How do you know these things?
Actual verified history of scientists and explorers. Think Copernicus, Columbus, John Cabot, Ferdinand Magellen which all showed the World was round and not flat and the Sun didn't circle around the Earth. Magellen circumnavigated the entire world for positive proof. If you need more proof, look at a modern day satellite images.
Sheesh, why would you even ask? The Bible authors were way before the examples above, and that's why they didn't know and just wrote what they believed in their minds and visions. Are you a flat earther?
“Sheesh, why would you even ask? “
Maybe to see how you know these things. You appear to be ignorant of the historical truth that people well before the birth of Our Lord knew the earth was round and had calculated the circumference of the planet.
Where is your proof that the Bible shows the Earth is flat? Or did I misunderstand your somewhat odd claims?
(Look up Eratosthenes, Pythagoras, and Aristotle if you are interested in how wrong your claims are.)
Secondly: The earliest documented mention of the spherical Earth concept dates from around the 5th century BC, when it was mentioned by ancient Greek philosophers.[1][2] In the 3rd century BC, Hellenistic astronomy established the roughly spherical shape of the Earth as a physical fact and calculated the Earth's circumference. This knowledge was gradually adopted throughout the Old World during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages.[3][4][5][6] A practical demonstration of Earth's sphericity was achieved by Ferdinand Magellan and Juan Sebastián Elcano's circumnavigation (1519–1522).[7]
As seen above, the Greeks philosophers and Hellenistic astronomy suggested in theory that the Earth was spherical. It didn't start gaining acceptance until Late Antiquity and Middle Ages. That was long after the Apostle writings. It was just theory and most of the world didn't accept it until Magellan and others proved it. Even Columbus didn't realize until looking for a shorter trade route to Asia.
I'm done and admire and wish I had your faith.
“First: I didn’t say the Bible shows the Earth is flat. I said the writers of that day believed it.”
How do you know that?
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