Posted on 03/15/2021 8:08:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
We are saved by Grace alone!
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Peter (the Lord, really) says, in his letters, “Baptism now saves us.”
And that edifies how James used ‘dead when stating that fiath without works is dead, as in no0functioning, not non-existent.
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Thank you!
You actually quoted Scripture.
Doesn’t happen very often.
Thank you!
A great thought!
If faith alone saves, then Satan and the demons are saved.
Thank you.
To be saved:
John 3:16 belief is needed
Acts 2 — Peter preaches repentance and baptism
Romans 10 — Confess that Jesus is Lord
Mark 16 — The Lord, himself, says, belief and baptism
Then comes the hard part, working and maturing as a Christian — it keeps you busy.
The parable of the talents is appropriate here.
Three servants are given 10, 5, 1 talent(s).
The 10 and 5 talent servants double their money and made rulers over much (note that both get the same reward)
The 1 talent servant, out of fear of losing money, buries it and returns the one talent to the master.
The servants are Christians; they are given a job to do; they must work.
The one who didn’t work was termed by the master to be *evil* and *lazy*.
Not only will we be condemned if we don’t believe, but if, as Christians, we are lazy, we will be condemned.
Once saved, ALWAYS saved:
Revelation 3:5 5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not *BLOT* out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
— Maybe, not so much.
I apologize for my own creative editing for brevity also I'm probably not the best source for resolving the understanding you seek.
Your quarrell is probably with those far above my pay grade
anyway I'll give it a shot.
In your list, Commandment Number Two (Graven Images) from the Law of Moses is completely missing.
I believe this is covered in #1 because creating and worshiping idols would be in effect worshiping other gods.
In your list, Commandment Number Ten (Covetness) from the Law of Moses is split and is presented as two commandments, nine and ten.
I don't know why that is but I think it nicely separates a man's wife from his goods. Men don't own their wives do they?
If your only issues are with the way two of the commandments are listed I think that's pretty good really.
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And one more timeL What did Jesus mean when He told the disciples to ‘let the dead go bury the dead?’ If you answer that truthfully you will see that the word ‘dead’ as used by James can definitely mean non functioning, non-functioning, not non-existent. But then to understand the truth therein you would need to be seeking the Turth James is teaching, rather than the cultish deceit you’ve settled upon to believe.
“Let the spiritually dead bury those who are literally dead.”
Are you constipated? Have you been taking your metamucil? If you want to talk about the word, DEAD, JUST SAY SO.
Let the dead...
νεκροὺς (nekrous)
Adjective - Accusative Masculine Plural
Strong’s Greek 3498: (a) adj: dead, lifeless, subject to death, mortal, (b) noun: a dead body, a corpse. From an apparently primary nekus; dead.
Bury their dead...
νεκρούς (nekrous)
Adjective - Accusative Masculine Plural
Strong’s Greek 3498: (a) adj: dead, lifeless, subject to death, mortal, (b) noun: a dead body, a corpse. From an apparently primary nekus; dead.
Faith without works is dead...
νεκρά (nekra)
Adjective - Nominative Feminine Singular
Strong’s Greek 3498: (a) adj: dead, lifeless, subject to death, mortal, (b) noun: a dead body, a corpse. From an apparently primary nekus; dead.
Matthew 8:22, Luke 9:60, James 2:17, 26. Same story, same word, same meaning. IT MEANS DEAD.
YOU AND ANDY ARE WRONG!
Maybe the REAL issue is in changing the law of God?
One theory is: The second commandment was deleted because some denominations wanted statuary in their religion.
There were no graven images in the Jewish worship at the time the Lord created his church. The church consisted of almost all Jews for about 10 to 15 years since the church was mostly in Jerusalem. We can imagine that statuary-free worship was continued since there logically might be some momentum from their previous experience worshiping as Jews.
The New Testament is silent about statuary in the church, (altars, too). Some have taken the silence to mean that the matter is unimportant or the writers of the New Testament books would have mentioned it. Then they step into the abyss by saying, “Now we are free to choose.”
Our choices are, scripture is silent because it didn’t matter or scripture is silent because it didn’t happen (there were no statues).
Am I in more trouble if I take the silence to mean that I can make my own choice, have statues. Or, am I in more trouble if I assume the silence means statuary was absent from the worship and therefore I will choose to not have statuary in worship. To me, the infallibly safe path is the latter.
Disclaimer: It matters whether the issue is critical or not. Being baptized, believing, repenting, confessing, is critical to our salvation, deciding to sit in pews or chairs is not. The silence about pews or chairs is no big deal. Pews or chairs are not intimately connected with salvation. Statuary was — in the Old Testament — and was carried forward.
When checking doctrine against the scriptures, keep the “tradition of the elders” in mind to avoid making the doctrine of men a requirement rather than an option.
Some man/committee decided to delete the second commandment and split commandment 10 into two.
One of blessings of America is that we can worship God in our own way. That is a dangerous path. The BIG question is: How does the Lord WANT to be worshiped? That is critical. We mustn’t screw that up.
Hmmm...
There was something mentioned about that somewhere...
something about keys...
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The passage you reference regarding talents is found in Matthew 25. This series of teachings were given to Jewish men regarding Israel not the Church. The only reference to church was made when Jesus said 'upon this profession I will build my church.' Beginning in chapter 23 and running through chapters 24 and 25 of Matthew's Gospel Jesus is answering the questions posed by his disciples reagrding Israel and the end of the age for ISRAEL. The parable teachgn in this section is about ISRAEL not the church.
Matthew's Gospel was written by a Jewish man to convince Hebrew Christians that Jesus was/is indeed the Messiah they were to welcome but whom the ISRAELITE leaders rejected.
Indeed! And when Peter preached the Gospel in the House of Cornelius, he was using the ‘keys’ to open salvation by Grace to the gentiles. Heretofore The Grace had been open to the Jews. The kingdom was in a state of posponment. But the kingdom will once again be offered to the Jews at the end of the Tribulation when the Jews call upon Jesus as their Messaih declaring He IS their Messiah. Seems the Jews always get it right the second time but very rarely the first.
Please forgive the typos, I am nearly blind and am a ‘hunt and peck’ typer.
Now it’s my turn. I’ve REPEATEDLY asked you specifically why you (and your teachers/prophets like Andy Woods) will not comment on the Antichrist and what the reformers believed and the biblical evidence. Same goes for who the early church fathers believed the restrainer of the Antichrist to be. Here’s a little recap:
EVERY reformer named the Catholic church as the Antichrist power.
http://www.redeemerfw.org/resources/reformers_antichrist.pdf
The Catholic church got tired of EVERY reformer dumping on them and accusing them of being the Antichrist power and came out with Jesuit diversionary theories (preterism and futurism). “Look, the Antichrist either already came or comes in the future. Nope, IT’S NOT US.”
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/antichrist.htm
The Jesuit theory of Futurism is EXACTLY the same as the pre trib rapture theory.
FUTURISM
Francisco Ribera (1537-1591) was a Jesuit doctor of theology, born in Spain, who began writing a lengthy commentary in 1585 on the book of Revelation (Apocalypse) titled In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij, and published it about the year 1590. He died in 1591 at the age of fifty-four, so he was not able to expand on his work or write any other commentaries on Revelation. In order to remove the Catholic Church from consideration as the antichrist power, Ribera proposed that the first few chapters of the Apocalypse applied to ancient pagan Rome, and the rest he limited to a yet future period of 3 1/2 literal years, immediately prior to the second coming. During that time, the Roman Catholic Church would have fallen away from the pope into apostasy. Then, he proposed, the antichrist, a single individual, would:
• Persecute and blaspheme the saints of God.
• Rebuild the temple in Jerusalem.
• Abolish the Christian religion.
• Deny Jesus Christ.
• Be received by the Jews.
• Pretend to be God.
• Kill the two witnesses of God.
• Conquer the world.
So, according to Ribera, the 1260 days and 42 months and 3 1/2 times of prophecy were not 1260 years, but a literal 3 1/2 years, and therefore none of the book of Revelation had any application to the middle ages or the papacy, but to the future, to a period immediately prior to the second coming, hence the name Futurism. A 1591 edition, 1593 edition, and a 1603 edition of his commentary are now online.
Today, Futurism has been renamed PRE TRIB RAPTURE.
The biblical identifying characteristics of the Antichrist are as follows:
1. It will rise to be a great power after the fall of the pagan Roman empire (after 476 A.D.). See Early Church Fathers on Antichrist.
2. It will be a geographically small nation (a little horn).
3. It will rule over many people, nations, and tongues (it will be universal).
4. It will be headquartered in the city of seven hills, Rome.
5. It will be a religio-political entity — a political city-state ruled by a priest-king.
6. Its priest-king will make great and blasphemous claims.
7. It will claim authority over all kings.
8. It will claim its power to change the holy times and laws of God as its mark of authority.
9. It will be an apostate church, that makes the nations drink her cup of apostate doctrine.
10. It will be a “mother” church, with apostate daughters coming from her.
11. It will be a persecuting power, killing the faithful saints of Jesus Christ as heretics.
12. It will hold power and authority for 1260 years following the fall of pagan Rome.
13. It will suffer a deadly wound that will end 1260 years of dominance and persecution.
14. It will be revived after the deadly wound, and all the world will wonder at it’s revival.
The early church father named pagan Rome as the restrainer of the Antichrist
http://aloha.net/~mikesch/fathers-on-antichrist.htm
Why do you and your teachers/prophets refuse to discuss this clear evidence on the Antichrist?
Why do you and your teachers/prophets refuse to discuss who the early church fathers CLEARLY identified as the restrainer of the Antichrist?
(I believe the reason is because if it’s true, and it is, then the pre trib rapture theory is Strong’s Greek 3498….DEAD!)…..see what I did there?
But the kingdom will once again be offered to the Jews at the end of the Tribulation when the Jews call upon Jesus as their Messaih declaring He IS their Messiah. Seems the Jews always get it right the second time but very rarely the first.
Nope. There are no second chances and God is not a respecter of persons. If the Jews of today wanted to believe, they could do it today. You follow the Jesuit Ribera and Futurism (now named the pre trib rapture). Anyone who believes in the pre trib rapture has been fooled by the Antichrist power.
No worries, there is something also about how many times should I forgive my brother
Seventy times... now what is that number?
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LOL, Phil, sorry cultist you have not found your precious ultimate gotcha. Phil, can the spiritually dead be made spiritually alive? Once someone is made spiritually alive Who does the Bible sat is thereafter and forevermore abiding in that born again spirit? [ Hint: 1 John 3:9 ].
Answer the questions, hypocrite.
Why do you and your teachers/prophets refuse to discuss this clear evidence on the Antichrist?
Why do you and your teachers/prophets refuse to discuss who the early church fathers CLEARLY identified as the restrainer of the Antichrist?
Bye,cultist.
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