of the ten virgins. Well, here is my take.
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Posted on 02/02/2021 9:17:32 AM PST by OneVike
Rather than try and go through the various ways that this parable has been interpreted, I will just shared with you my understanding of the parable. I’ll let the Holy Spirit guide you in what lesson He wishes you to get from the parable, but this is what the Spirit has led me to see.
Obviously they are not Democrats...................
Any Christian with eyes should KNOW to have your spiritual bags packed, your oil full and be ready to move out.
If anyone (besides Christ) is currently in heaven, why did Christ say a) he’ll come back for us and b) that the Bible says AT HIS RETURN the dead in Christ rise first, then all who are living, after?
No one is in Heaven yet. They all walk the earth or are asleep, waiting on the resurrection of the dead in Christ
Show me where I ever said no one is in heaven. You added something that is not there.
Exactly and importantly. I admonished my niece recently about this trap into which Satan lures believers, and I was gratified she got and agreed with the point.
I am a just-before-the-mid-Tribber myself (leaving aside the arguments here), which means I won't even be surprised if things get much worse before the Rescue. Regardless, I am Ready. Meantime, as you say, keep obeying.
So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. For we walk by faith, not by sight. We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.2 Corinthians 5:5-8
Thank you
I don’t have time right now to read the commentary, but look forward to it.
In short, While Paul is the chosen Apostle to the Gentiles, having revealed the mystery hidden through the ages, and given by revelation of the mystery, to the church....
The Old Testament Scriptures, as well as the Gospels, are given for our understanding. With that said, the parabels are also viewed in terms of understanding as types and shadows for the church as well as to give understanding to the Jews.
This interpretation of types and shadows can be applied to many passages of the OT as well as the Gospels on many accounts.
Just my view.
God Bless
The Bible does seem to rather heavily imply that’s the case, though I think it would have to be the general case, but with some particular exceptions. There are at least a couple examples of people who may have been “translated” directly to heaven, and also a number of people who were raised along with Christ when he was resurrected as well. In Revelation also, those who are martyred for their refusal to submit to the Beast seem to already be in heaven before the second coming of Christ and the two resurrections.
worth reading. our next conscious thought after dying is being in the presence of the Lord.
I have read a similar analogy many years ago. While interesting to ponder, I’m not in a agreement with it.
There is just too much Biblical evidence to say otherwise.
However, thanks for sharing. I did find it interesting. As I said I have read the same theory before.
the Scripture that has the most clarity is that Christ comes back for us; why would He do that if we’re already there.
Quote: “No one is in Heaven yet. They all walk the earth or are asleep, waiting on the resurrection of the dead in Christ”-———————
2 Corinthians 5:7-9
King James Version
7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
See, now you are trying to get me into a discussion of the end times, and the whole Dispensation/Rapture end times doctrine. Which I Clearly stated in my commentary I refuse to get into.
I will say this though. From your question, you are obviously a not a believer in the Rapture.
Whether you are a Historicist, Preterist, Futurist, or a Spiritualist when it comes to your understanding of the end times, I could care less.
I understand them all, and their arguments, however your query will not reap you any nuggets from me on this topic. At least not on this thread.
At least not from me.
Quote: “the Scripture that has the most clarity is that Christ comes back for us; why would He do that if we’re already there.”
We need to read 1’st Corinthians 15:51-55 for further understanding.
While our Spirit and Soul is united and present with the Lord upon our passing from this current life to the next, our bodies, (our corruptible flesh) awaits the transformation Paul reveals in the following verse.
Our corruptible flesh cannot enter the presence of God. So the transformation takes place at the same time as 1’st Thessalonians 4:13-18. They are the same event and the same time reference.
For full clarity I’ve included the full text:
1’st Corinthians 15:
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
wow. you got that I don’t believe in A rapture from my comment? I absolutely, positively beleive there is 1 rapture, at the coming of Christ. Not before. Not 2 of them.
As I began to read this I also began to equate the words spoken by Stephen before the religious sect of that day stoned him. Which I think emphasises your point-Matthew 23:2-4:
Acts 7:
51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
These words spoken by Stephen were the last words of warning given to the nation of Israel after Jesus had ascended and stood, before turning to the Gentiles. (Having been rejected by the Jews. Romans 11)
Likewise, I think, to further illustrate your point, just as in those days, the followers of religious traditions, reject the One True Mediator-1’st Timothy 2:5; Hebrews 8:6; 9:15
On the subject of the marriage between Jesus Christ and the bride, I found extremely interesting. It makes me correlate the jezebel spirit of old and the same spiritual adultry promoted today in the gentile religious sects. Adultry is grounds for divorce in the natural sense of the term, and it is my view that spiritual adultry is also grounds for divorce between Jesus and His fiancee. Which is my assertian against unconditional eternal security. There is One Head of the Body of Christ and for those that take on “another head” comitt spiritual adultry.Proverbs chapter 7.
Concerning the Holy Spirit and the Oil correlation I would agree. I liken our Born Again transformation to a Spiritual Creation becoming Spirit, Soul and body. Much like the Trinity being the father, Son and the Holy Spirit. Our new Creation becomes one with the Triune God. Not in a manner of elevating oneself but a requirement of acceptance.
Regarding Pauls former self (Saul) he regarded the things he formerly valued, ie. Self righteousness as dung. In order to gain the excellency of Jesus Christ and Him Crucified.
Regarding the present day condition of the Laedecean church, I would whole heartedly agree. And we were warned of this. Because satan has entered the pulpit he has been given authority by means of religious leaders to deceive and to lead astray. The Word of God is no longer given the authority of Truth. But rather has given way for traditions to be the arbitor.
The Holy Spirit convicts and leads the heart into all Truth. He is our Comforter.
I really enjoyed your commentary. Well researched and presented well.
God Bless
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