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To: Sontagged
The dream part starts at 2:40.

We can pray for “the snow to melt” so things can be exposed.

For those ONLY who obey 1 Thessalonians 5:20 (KJV) Despise not prophesyings. you may want to read Ryan Johnson: "EXPOSE: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"

So this would make two witnesses. (And I’ve encountered more.)

7 posted on 10/07/2020 6:08:42 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free; pastorbillrandles
Ugh, “the Elijah List”... haven't and won't even look at it for over ten years for fear of being contaminated. FR’s Pastor Bill Randles wrote a series of books exposing this movement.

Though I hold to Pentecostal/charismatic beliefs, everything must be checked by the Word, including experiences and dreams.

But the liars and false prophets out of the Apostolic Prophetic movement/Elijah List are not to be listened to or trusted. From the scant research I've done on Keith Green's death, I firmly believe it was because he began to get involved and influenced by the founding members of this false movement.

They do not hold to the primacy of the Word, but rather think themselves equals to Paul and the Apostles, and therefore capable of prophesying words that are tantamount to the Word. (They have much in common with Mormons, btw., and even a Mormon prophet once testified -- surely through a familiar spirit -- that the spirit that wrote the Book of Mormon was the same spirit that writes Rick Joyner's books.)

Joyner's books are actually anti-Christ: he subtly denies that Christ is come in the flesh as well as the Father and the Son. I could go on and on, but if you really want to see a familiar spirit in action, or see how familar spirits can counterfeit the Holy Spirit, hang out at IHOP or one of their meetings. Once you see what is really happening, your hair will stand on end.

One woman testified that Rick Joyner had them go outside his church and take money for prophesying over strangers... until she realized that was just plain fortune telling, i.e. witchcraft.

Chuck Pierce. Rick Joyner. Todd Bentley. Paul Cain. Bob Jones. Mike Bickle. Bill Hamon. All prideful "elites" who think that their personal prophesying is equal to that of the Bible. Crazy as loons, teaching things that “go beyond what is written” such as “intercession is to be a paid ministry” (which is the sin of “Simony”, a macabre view of the sacrifice of prayer and worship)

And even worse are those who “tolerate” these lying false prophets who teach those “so called deep things of Satan” on the Elijah List:

“But this I have against you: you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, who teaches and leads My bond-servants astray so they commit acts of immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. And I will kill her children with death, and all the churches will know that I am the One searching affections and hearts; and I will give to each of you according to your works. ‘But I say to you, the rest who are in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not known the deep things of Satan, as they call them — I place no other burden on you."

I apologize for digressing from this very simple and sweet dream this woman had from the Lord, but the Elijah List is "apostasy central" for the Apostolic Prophetic movement. The Gifts are for today, they simply are to be checked by the Word in discernment and bounded by the "foundation that has already been laid, with Christ as chief cornerstone".

9 posted on 10/07/2020 6:53:40 AM PDT by Sontagged ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork." -Psalm 19:1)
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