Posted on 09/08/2020 12:35:49 AM PDT by Choppo
The Navy has declined to renew contracts with Catholic priests in a supposed “cost-cutting” move, leaving bases without enough chaplains to keep services going, according to a report by the San Diego Union-Tribune.
The Navy boasts an active duty component of clergy, the Chaplain Corps, but the number of Catholic priests among them is small. The Navy had contracted priests to lead services on U.S. bases, but those contracts have now been cancelled.
Services will continue on overseas bases and on Navy ships, the Union-Tribune reported.
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Cost-cutting is always needed to be more efficient but diversity, transgender, and social justice training should be cut first before religious services to the troops and their families which is mandated by law. How about cutting a few thousands of deadwood senior officers and civilians or just a pet project to save a few priests? Most of these priests, if not all, are not there for money. They just want to serve the troops and their families.
PDJT has been very supportive and respectful toward the military and civilian leaders, but they stab him every chance they get. In his second term, he needs to be ruthless with these swamp drellers.
Meanwhile, their "leaders" live a life of ultimate luxury surrounded by priceless art and sculptures, enjoying the best food, wine, healthcare, and retirements.
And then to top it off, some catholics (and other so-called religious people) vote D, who advocates abortion. If every religious person voted against abortion, R's would win in a landslide.
The military chaplains manuals cover how each religious sect’s procedures are to be handled. So, A chaplain can do all of them, even if they were themselves kosher!
I had thought that ‘duh chaplin’ was the one guy, for all the GI’s. This contracting out, no matter for which sect, is not reasonable under the feds singling out which sect got the contract!
What military chaplains manual are you referencing? Non Catholic chaplains cannot say Mass under any circumstances if that’s what you are saying.
I had a cousin-by-marriage who is a catholic priest and served for a time as a Navy chaplain. I recall that he had to get his bishop’s permission to join, then to re-enlist, and that that permission wasn’t easy to obtain with the general shortage of priest within the catholic church. They wanted him to take a parish, and run a school which he eventually did.
One of our chaplains had an interesting story. He always wanted to join the military but his bishop didn’t let him go until he was 52. He came in on a waiver and ended up serving for 20 years. He was the best inspiration during the physical exams as we didn’t want to be beaten by a 70-year-old guy.
The Navy exacerbates the problem by pushing lots of them out when they reach a certain age or when they fail to advance under a very political promotion system.
Good, keep religion for the masses, these cult sects will just have to learn to pray along with the others.
The act of cancelling things in the military for cost effectiveness is not unusual. But this move was not designed to “pick on” Catholics. They are not left out in the cold. Within Roman Catholic Diocese of San Diego, there are 98 parishes to choose from and 89 schools for the kids who choose, or parents choose, for Catholic education.
Within the population of San Diego, roughly 3.5 million, it is estimated that around 2 million, including non-members, are Catholic. (Better thn half of the population with the establishment of the Diocese of San Diego in July 11, 1936. Two of the original missions in the area were Catholic.)
I would agree that the availability of services is there and it would be he first to get cut to cover costs and not really change anything. Another cheap shot, miss leading article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_San_Diego
rwood
“The Navy exacerbates the problem by pushing lots of them out when they reach a certain age...”
I guess the Navy & the Catholic Church are both driven by “needs of the service” but it does seem that allowances should be made for the Chaplain Corps. The best chaplains in my experience were the Catholic priests — and I’m not even Catholic.
Reminds me of a Commander's Daily Update in Iraq: Task Force Commander: "Padre, anything?" Catholic Chaplain: "Just a normal day, Sir. Four Soldier counselings, all with a common theme. Wives engaged in extracurricular activities while draining the family finances."
Any military chaplains manuals!!!
If there is not a ‘brand x’ minister, then ‘brand y’ has the military authority to do so.
They do it at the V.A., too, who has to abide by the same manual.
Nope. There is a general sense in which all chaplains will provide care for anyone through counseling, or some form of ministry. But chaplains aren’t expected or even authorized to play the role of a Rabbi, Imman or priest. You represent your own faith background and ecclesiastical ordination. So, like I said. Only a Catholic priest can say Mass. I as a Protestant cannot. Unless you can find a manual saying otherwise. Hint—you can’t because it doesn’t exist.
Then here something to chew on:
When you are admitted to the V.A., they must do a ‘spiritual assessment’ on you. And it is to be done by whichever chaplain is on duty!
This rule is for US mainland bases. Maybe it is a cost saving rule since most personnel are able to attend church in the communities around the base. There is no reason for a Navy Roman Catholic not to attend church outside the gate. Ditto the Protestant personnel.
Update...
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The United States Navy, or the Department of Defense, will NOT be cancelling its contract with Catholic Priests who serve our men and women in the Armed Forces so well, and with such great compassion & skill. This will no longer be even a point of discussion!
@CardinalDolan
10:15 AM · Sep 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
I’m glad to see the President got involved and fought back. They failed but will keep coming back for our rights. You see the Pentagon swamp dwellers do it time and time again. First, they started with catholic services at CONUS bases, then oversea bases, then afloat. Next, Protestant and Judaism services will be cut. Finally, Chaplain Corps will be disbanded and all religions but Islam will only be allowed.
Yes of course. But once the SA is complete, and the need goes outside of the Chaplain’s faith, and it’s obvious that that chaplain can not provide, he finds a chaplain who can support. Much of this depends on what is acceptable to the patient. BTW, I’m a retired Navy Chaps and current VA chaplain.
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