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To: SeekAndFind

Depends some on what is meant by Chritian.

Considering the growth of the prosperity gospel nonsense, which names Christ as a window dressing, I doubt the actual number of true Christians is what it has been in the past.

God knows who are His and there are going to be a lot of surprises some day.


10 posted on 07/04/2020 11:38:21 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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You’re absolutely correct. The growth is in the extreme Charismatic movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation founded by C. Peter Wagner of Fuller Theological Seminary in California. They believe that self-appointed apostles and prophets are going to bring about the millennium once the Seven Mountains are conquered by NAR leaders. The “mountains” include education, government, entertainment, business, etc. In other words, Christ won’t return until they have prepared the way for Him. And when He returns, He will put them in charge. It’s completely un-Biblical.

They also believe they are endowed with the same supernatural powers that the original Apostles who followed Jesus had. They also claim that Jesus was not God, that he was merely a man in right relationship with God (the Kenosis heresy). So, they, too, can perform the same miracles He did. Go online and search “The Send” with Engle’s name. It is disturbing to see the tens of thousands of mostly young people in enormous stadiums who are buying this garbage. These charismatic leaders are developing cults and it is frightening.

The NAR is completely un-biblical but it is sweeping many extreme Charismatic/Pentecostal groups. Some of the prominent “apostles” of the Movement are Bill Johnson of Bethel Church, Brian Houston of Hillsong Church, Lou Giglio of Passion City Church, Rodney-Howard Brown in Florida, Lou Engle of the International House of Prayer, and others. It incorporates old heresies such as the Word-Faith movement and what is now called the prosperity gospel, along with the Seven Mountains Mandate. These are false prophets and false teachers and their apostasy is spreading like wildfire, especially in Latin America and Africa. They have massive gatherings in this country, too. Steve Furtick of Elevation Church is closely associated with them, as is Joel Osteen. They lead enormous, non-denominational megachurches but they are not preaching the Gospel. (By the way, if your church is using their music in your worship services, you are supporting them through licensing fees.)

Search Heidi Baker of Bethel Church. Watch the video of her online as she leads an “impartation” ceremony during which people jerk uncontrollably, fling themselves on the floor and scream and cry as she repeats mantras and takes the Lord’s name in vain. Look up the “Toronto Blessing” online and watch people totally out of control of their bodies exhibiting deranged behavior as they fall over laughing uncontrollably. It resembles the behavior of followers of Kundalini Cult practices in India and elsewhere. It’s shocking and chilling.

Search Bill Johnson of Bethel Church on the Internet. He claims angel feathers and gold dust appear during his services, in restaurants, and in the homes of his followers, and are evidence of the presence of the Almighty. These people are scam artists masquerading as men of God. They’re making millions of dollars off deluded, naive worshipers who are desperate for an “experience” in worship services. It’s disgusting. The spread of “Christianity” is found in the “churches” of these charlatans and it is not the Christianity of the Bible. The false prophets and false teachers the Bible warns us about are spreading their apostasy everywhere especially TBN. It should be of concern to every Bible-believing Christian. No one should be fooled by any of it.


11 posted on 07/04/2020 6:11:24 PM PDT by PA Presbyterian
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