“However you want to put it, the Bible says
we will be held accountable for our Free Will
choices.-——Jag 5000
And the buck stops where?
HENRY: I was the driver. I did not know they were going to kill a man robbing the bank.
Why is the getaway driver responsible for killing the man? He made the choice to only drive the car not kill the man. Who is responsible then? In the eyes of the law and GOD both are equally responsible for the heinous act. Therefore if GOD were the getaway driver, he is as much responsible for the choices made using the Free Will GOD chose to give us. The choice is ultimately in GOD’s hands but we make the final choice. Therefore GOD is the root beginning of the FREE WILL choice there fore he is ultimately responsible in the end. Or is it only when there is good that it’s GOD’s Will and when there is bad it is man’s will. Can’t have it both ways.”___Zaxtres
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* The entire Bible is written on the assumption
that God gave man Free Will.
* And that God holds all men personally and
directly responsible for their Free Will choices.
* There is no possible way to ESCAPE from this.
* You would have to start tearing whole pages out of
your Bible in order to hold that God is responsible
for man’s Free Will decisions and choices.
* Joshua told told the people to “choose you this
day whom you will serve.”
*John 3:16 presents you with a clear Free Will CHOICE between
{1} perish
and
{2} Eternal Life
* “Behold I stand at the door and knock” presents
all people with a Free Will CHOICE
{1} Open the door
or
{2} Refuse to open the door.
* There is nothing in your post up-there that
in any way demonstrates that God is responsible
for man’s Free Will choices.
* Why is it that human beings are so zealous to
get rid of Free Will?
* I think its because many humans DO NOT LIKE
the concept of FREE WILL because it puts the
BLAME SQUARE ON THEM and takes it off of God.
* I do know this: That the Internet is packed
and crammed with people that love to argue
AGAINST Free Will -— this is very telling.
* Many humans will blame anybody they can EXCEPT
themselves for Sin and Evil.
” Adam blamed Eve “This woman that YOU gave me”
* “I’m innocent” is what most convicts tell you.
* They can have a “rap sheet” as long as a
bath towel, but they will tell you “It was
not my fault” that I committed those crimes.
Best.
JAG 5000
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Yeah... yeah... yeah... pass the blame and the buck. You never addressed the comment I made back. Funny you recite the Bible as if the Bible was God’s own words. Yet when doing a history of the Bible we see that GOD never wrote the Bible, a collection of men wrote it. On top of all of that, it was man who decided what the Bible contains, not God.
So come at me all you want, but until you have God’s words from God himself, the Bible is nothing more than a history book like an author writing about George Washington in the year 2020. Neither was there to witness first hand the accounts of the deeds.
Come at me with first hand accounts not drivel from a history book.
Never said I was against Free Will. I originally talked about predetermination. That is something totally different than free will. If something is predetermined then the outcome from all the Free Will choices will be the same. And that is where I lose you because you conflate Free will - the choice - with predetermination - the outcome. So you will continue to argue we all have a choice but according to the Bible there is only two outcomes (three really). You either go to Heaven or you go to Hell. The third is purgatory in some circles. This is predetermination. All the choices that you freely make make, Free Will, then leads you to an outcome that has been predetermined.
I won’t argue about Free Will because Free Will and predetermination are not one in the same. You can if you want but you might be better served beating an old rug because you will get more out of it.