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1 posted on 06/04/2020 4:19:44 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 06/04/2020 4:20:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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Interesting speculation but what happens if Benedict dies tomorrow?

Then de facto Francis is the Pope then? Or was he always the Pope from his election.

Did Pope Emeritus Benedict Intend see the distinction the way Mazza did? Because if he did not, and was believing all the time that the Office of Bishop of Rome and the Office of Papacy were coterminous, then it follows that he was in fact resigning the office of Pope as well.


3 posted on 06/04/2020 4:51:03 PM PDT by Bayard
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The most interesting thing I've seen from Fr. Z in a long time. He mentions the words "Francis" and "antipope" in the same sentence in a not dismissive and not derisory manner. That's quite some progress. In previous years, I've seen posters threatened and rebuked for raising this very possibility on his blog.

The elephant in the room is now too big to ignore.

5 posted on 06/04/2020 5:06:13 PM PDT by marshmallow
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Were the Avignon Popes considered Bishops of Rome?


6 posted on 06/04/2020 5:34:46 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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Just sent this to someone who loves everything “Fatima.”


7 posted on 06/04/2020 5:49:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

No “smoking gun” just a theory made by slitting theological hairs which are not likely in any practical capacity to split.


8 posted on 06/05/2020 10:14:46 AM PDT by Wuli (Get)
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