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To: MayflowerMadam
God would protect them if they did the right thing. The Jews in the USA consistently ally themselves with the UNgodly so ... yeah ... probably God isn’t cool with that.

Does God always protect those who do the right thing?
Just curious, not baiting you.

17 posted on 05/21/2020 9:12:43 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

“Does God always protect those who do the right thing?”

Not sure. But probably in His own way. Our definition of “protect” may be different from His.

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.” Isaiah 55:8


18 posted on 05/21/2020 9:17:31 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: cloudmountain
...."Does God always protect those who do the right thing? "....

The prophesy is already written. Israel will be surrounded in the Last Days with a 200 million man army. The church will be raptured by then so there will be no earthly help. All the nations of the earth will be involved so even the US will be against Israel.(Cursed according to Gen 12) Jesus will return to earth and split the Mt of Olives. He will wade through the 200 million man army with a Word from His mouth. The blood will be as high as a horses eye for 184 miles in the valley of Megiddo.

A Jew is still responsible for his/her own salvation. Jesus will show His wounds to the Jews and they will repent according to Zech 12:10. Jews have died in righteous wars where Israel won. Wre they "bad" people? We know Jesus will save Israel, but many might die in the mean time.

Is a Jew judged by sodomy and killing babies or just being a Democrat? Study what happened to Solomon in the Last Days of his kingdom. He built altars to Baal and Molech with some on the same ground as the Temple. If you agree that our lives down here are not the end result of God's plan and has everything to do with our relationship with Jesus, then being racially Jewish is NOT the measure of God's judgement. A Jew can go to Heaven or Hell just as a Gentile can, but only believers can be a reborn Son of God to live in Spiritual Israel. Earth dwellers will NOT be allowed in Heaven, but only Sons of God.(there is no male or female in Heaven) Each of us must be adopted into the family of God just as Ephraim, a Gentile child of Joseph and an Egyptian woman, was adopted into Jacob's inheritance.(Israel) Concentrate on the "inheritance". Joseph's 2 Gentile children received a double portion of Jacob's inheritance from Joseph in Canaan even though they were racially impure. Also notice that it was hundreds of years later that Joshua physically went into the Promised Land and divided it up among the brothers. Jesus described it as being grafted into the Vine. There is a carnal Israel here on earth and a Spiritual Israel in Heaven. We must be in Spiritual Israel to belong to God. The New Jerusalem will come down from Heaven to be our new home.

Israel here on earth is merely the time clock of God. We must watch Israel to know where we are on God's timeline for prophesy.

An individual Jew in America, or anywhere else, is still up to God to judge. We must always look at individual judgement separate from national judgement. If you look at it as I do, America is under Judgement right now for murdering 60 million children and accepting sodomy, even though many of us are not guilty of such things. Will living in today's America affect our individual judgement? We will be judged on our individual relationship with Jesus.

We must always remember that Jesus told church people that thought they were righteous to "get away from me, I never knew you!" It's time for all of us to re examine our relationship with Him. We are warned to examine ourselves at times of Communion with Him. Trusting on being Jewish or any certain denomination won't save you.

If you read the 7 letters to the churches in Rev 2-3, all of them save one have something that Jesus wants us to change. The church at Philadelphia is the only one promised to be Raptured out of the trial coming on the whole earth. Calling yourself a Christian is not enough. That means the other 6 churches will be left behind to suffer under the Antichrist. One out of six is NOT good odds. We must be the church of Brotherly Love to be Raptured. The Ephesians were the church of legalism. Thyatira worshiped idols. Smyrna is the dead church, and so on. God is looking for people that love Him and other people. Many think they do but don't. Jesus said "If you love me, DO My Commandments". Most of us don't even try anymore and rely on Grace to get us by. Just bring it up at church that it would be easy to start to observe the 7th day Sabbath and see what happens. In the Millennial Reign, Jesus will restore the 7th day Sabbath and force observance of Tabernacles with His iron rod(Zech 14), but we don't even read Leviticus 23 in church, let alone even observe the days we are commanded to observe. Grace just means we are no longer under the Law of sin and death. According to Jesus in Matthew 5, not one jot or tittle will pass away of the Law until Heaven and earth pass away. We tend to judge the Jews at their failure to recognize their Messiah, yet Gentiles ignore every Commandment God gave us. There is a narrow way and few that find it. None of us are "good". God can protect a Jew as well as a Gentile if He chooses to. But none of us are getting off of this rock with the body we have now. Even the "rock" is destined to burn up.

So the answer to your question is "It depends".

28 posted on 05/21/2020 10:54:06 AM PDT by chuckles
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