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To: CondoleezzaProtege

NONSENSE!

Less contraception = more Catholics

That is all.


3 posted on 11/24/2019 3:09:34 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

Even in disagreeing you’ve shown how birth control has harmed the church. Fewer believers means less of an impact on the culture.


6 posted on 11/24/2019 3:15:16 PM PST by NorthstarMom
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To: faucetman

More contraception among Chistians means more Muslims. Stuff doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Europe is turning Muslim because the non-Muslims have 1.2 children per woman.


7 posted on 11/24/2019 3:21:03 PM PST by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: faucetman

“NONSENSE!

Less contraception = more Catholics

That is all”.

That’s right.


8 posted on 11/24/2019 3:28:17 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: faucetman

That is your whole argument against artificial contraceptives?
That is fairly weak. Come to think of it that is very weak.
Besides many people who claim they are “devout” Catholics have no problem using contraceptives. Why there are even priests who council it can be acceptable. So the “more Catholics” claim falls flat on its face.


9 posted on 11/24/2019 3:32:21 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: faucetman

Two kinds of contraception. One kills babies, one doesn’t. Condoms aren’t bad.


12 posted on 11/24/2019 4:05:52 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: faucetman

“When families, faiths, ethnic groups and nations stop believing, they stop reproducing.” - David P. Goldman.


47 posted on 11/24/2019 7:36:35 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on.)
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To: faucetman; CondoleezzaProtege
"NONSENSE! Less contraception = more Catholics. That is all.

Sure. Your comment would make sense on the face of it, *IF* certain historic facts or assumptions had turned out differently, namely if the leadership of the Church had actually been preaching and teaching against contraception over the past 50 years, and if Catholic husbands and wives had been behaving morally in accordance with the teaching, engaging in natural sex and procreating at a natural rate.

However, it was all to the contrary.

First of all, objective sexual morality was not preached at the parish level. I've gone to 5,000 -7,000 Masses in my life and have never heard one complete sentence with contraception or Humanae Vitae as the subject. (Similarly, Nancy Pelosi says she, her husband and 5 adult kids collectively spent over 100 years in Catholic schools and never once heard that man-on-man or women-on-woman sex was a sin.)

So, at the parish level, and I'm told at the seminary level, the Catholic Church did not have any teachings on sex, fertility, sanctity or sin. I say that ironically, and provocatively of course: if you don't *teach* it, it isn't a teaching. So 2-3 generation of Catholics have gone into adulthood knowing no more than what they learned from TV and PP.

And, like our fellow Protestants, secular Jews, and our fellow faithless citizens, we are dying out as a demographic from (ha) forgetting to reproduce.

52 posted on 11/25/2019 4:58:29 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on.)
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