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[Catholic Caucus] Vittorio Messori: “The Church does not belong to Bergoglio”
Rorate Caeli ^
| September 17, 2019
| Bruno Volpe
Posted on 09/17/2019 8:50:36 PM PDT by ebb tide
[Catholic Caucus] Vittorio Messori: The Church does not belong to Bergoglio
La Fede Quotidiana
September 17, 2019
The Church doesnt belong to Bergoglio but to Christ. Certainly, Im worried says the well-known Catholic journalist, Vittorio Messori, fine intellectual, author of a historic, John Paul II interview, at the time when interviewing a pope was not the done thing by newspapers.
I have seen many people worried, even desperately. As a believer, nonetheless, I keep in mind that the Church is not a business, a multinational or a state. In a word, it cannot fail. Certainly, there are plenty of reasons for alarm. Im thinking, for instance, of the upcoming Synod on the Amazon and its related equivocations; I dont know what they want to attain probably the married priesthood. So, Im worried, but not desperate because the Church does not belong to Bergoglio or the bishops, but to Christ alone and He governs it with wisdom. The forces of evil will not prevail,
In your opinion, is there a kind of underlying confusion?
Yes, there is, and it is saddening, bewildering, But I think sooner or later the Father will intervene. God surpasses our limited vision of things.
Do you believe that there is a type of conformism, even informational, regarding Pope Francis?
The conformism you are referring to exists. It is quite palpable in the Church. It is staggering that only two or three, almost ninety-year-old cardinals are speaking up and protesting. Many bishops and cardinals I talk to in private, throw up their hands in despair and dissent, but they are afraid, silent - they keep quiet. For 2000 years, touching the Pope has [always] been discouraged, but such a tendency is accentuated today and one can clearly experience it firsthand.
It is said that this is the Church of mercy, but is it really so? Those in command are intolerant of any criticism.
I wrote a polite article for the Corriere della Sera, in which I posed some questions and reflections and I was covered with insults, especially from certain Catholics in the media. A committee to petition my removal from the Corriere sprung up. This committee includes - to use the fashionable expression - the giglio magico* of the Pope. Well then, how can it be affirmed coherently that this is the Church of mercy, of open and sincere dialogue, of parrhesia. As I said before, Im worried, but not desperate. Christ will not abandon His Church.
*supporters. The term giglio magico refers to the Italian politician Matteo Renzis supporters.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: apostasy; francischism; francischurch; heresy
It is staggering that only two or three, almost ninety-year-old cardinals are speaking up and protesting. Many bishops and cardinals I talk to in private, throw up their hands in despair and dissent, but they are afraid, silent - they keep quiet.
Dictator Pope. No different than Joseph Stalin.
posted on 09/17/2019 8:50:36 PM PDT
by ebb tide
To: fatima; Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; ...
posted on 09/17/2019 8:51:34 PM PDT
by ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: ebb tide
A “married priesthood” is the least of my worries.
They did it before and they can do it again, because these are the rules that were established by MAN.
The basic Catholic religion, contained in the Apostles’ Creed, should NEVER be touched.
Man made rules: Okay to change
Apostles’Creed: Can never change
To: ebb tide
posted on 09/17/2019 9:31:51 PM PDT
(Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
I was gonna ask that, but you got there first.
posted on 09/17/2019 9:36:04 PM PDT
by Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
No. However, there are many sources which agree that a Pope who is a contumacious (=blatant and unreformable) public heretic has lost the office by his own acts. An Ecumenical Council would be required to formally remove him from office.
posted on 09/18/2019 5:03:39 AM PDT
To: ebb tide
No, it doesn’t.
But he’s in the driver’s seat. And it does not appear that anyone can remove him from it.
posted on 09/18/2019 8:51:02 AM PDT
by Buckeye McFrog
(Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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