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[Catholic Caucus] A Pope who doesn’t fear schism may cause one
Catholic Culture ^ | September 11, 2019 | Phil Lawler

Posted on 09/12/2019 4:21:44 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] A Pope who doesn’t fear schism may cause one

“I am not afraid of schisms,” Pope Francis told reporters during his latest airplane press conference.

Well, I am. And I’m afraid of any Roman Pontiff who isn’t afraid of splitting the universal Church.

Which means that, yes, I’m afraid of Pope Francis.

As we head into the Amazon Synod, there are numerous indications that the Pope and his allies will use the meeting to ram through another set of dramatic changes in Church teaching and discipline. He is willing to break with our fathers in faith; he is willing to break with his brothers. I fear that the Pope is determined to have his way, regardless of the cost to Church unity.

As I remarked recently, in the past few weeks we have seen disturbing signs of a new attitude at the highest echelons of the Vatican: a willingness to suppress and dismiss critics of the Pope without even a pretense of gentility. That aggressive approach—perhaps a bid to ensure “irreversible change” in the limited time available—was on display when the Pope replied to a question from Jason Horowitz of the New York Times, about the criticism the Pope has encountered from American Catholics.

Horowitz introduced the question of schism, asking if it worried the Pontiff. But he did not suggest that it was an imminent threat. He acknowledged that some American Catholics are “very critical,” but he pointed out to the Pope that it was “some of your closest allies who have spoken of a plot against you.” Thus the Times reporter traced the current discussion of schism to its proper source. It is not the Pope’s critics who are suggesting a break; it is his allies who claim that any criticism—however mild, however respectful, however logical—is a threat to the Pope’s authority and an assault on Church unity.

In his response to Horowitz, Pope Francis made it quite clear that he accepts his allies’ analysis of the American scene. He accepts the preposterous reading of American affairs by his friend Father Antonio Spadaro, who sees American conservatism as the greatest threat to the papal agenda, and insists that “there is a campaign of disinformation against Pope Francis that links American and Russian interests.” He welcomes the work of the French author Nicolas Seneze, who sees a conservative American plot against the Pope. He believes his advisers when they explain that all criticism of his statements and policies on doctrinal issues—on the Eucharist, on the indispensable role of Jesus Christ in salvation, on the indissolubility of marriage, on the male priesthood—is really a smokescreen, a pretext, because the critics are really interested only in advancing a conservative political agenda.

In his long, rambling statement, the Pope did not answer Horowitz’s questions as to whether he had learned anything from his critics, or whether he had plans for further dialogue with them. Instead he offered a disjointed reflection on criticism, claiming that he always welcomes honest criticism and hinting that his American critics are hypocrites, advancing their own hidden agenda. The Pope’s statement was so far removed from the reality of the situation that it is difficult to say whether it was marked by dishonesty or delusion—or perhaps both.

“First of all, criticism always helps, always,” the Pope said. At the outset of his African voyage, a papal spokesman had said that Francis is “honored” by criticism. Now the Pope himself told Horowitz, “I always benefit from criticism” and “a fair criticism is always well received, at least by me.” Really? Having covered Vatican affairs throughout this pontificate, I cannot recall a single instance in which Pope Francis made a gracious public response to any critic, on any topic. But I can easily recall dozens of occasions on which he lashed out as his critics—characterizing them as Pharisees and hypocrites, “doctors of the law,” rigid and uncharitable.

“To criticize without wanting to hear a response and without getting into dialogue is not to have the good of the Church at heart,” the Pope continued. But it is he who refused to respond to his most famous critics, the four cardinals who submitted the dubia. Four princes of the Church raised probing questions on vital doctrinal issues, and he declined to answer them. When Archbishop Vigano launched his scathing denunciation of the Pontiff, Francis promised that he would offer “not one word” in reply—although he did impugn the archbishop’s character. When American bishops demanded an explanation of the Vatican’s involvement in the McCarrick scandal, the Pope promised a full accounting—but a year later, no such accounting has emerged. When Cardinal Müller expressed concerns about papal statements, the Pope abruptly dismissed him from his role as the Vatican’s top doctrinal watchdog; more recently he has dismissed the German cardinal as “like a child.”

These are not the words nor the actions of a leader who welcomes honest criticisms. They are telltale signs of a willingness to ride roughshod over critics. And since they come from a Pontiff who has simultaneously shown a willingness to believe that powerful American forces are plotting against him, we can probably expect to see further signs of papal hostility later this year, as the bishops of the United States make their ad limina visits to Rome.

As he wrapped up his astonishing statement, Pope Francis finally voiced some sympathy for his critics, because “they are going through a tough time,” and closed by saying, “we much accompany them gently.” A tough time, yes; that is an understatement. But how can we really believe that the Pope plans to accompany us gently—that he does not indeed plan to continue ignoring our concerns, questioning our motives, denouncing our beliefs?

Pope Francis is not afraid of a split in the Church. I am. That’s why I’m afraid of this Pope.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: dictatorpope; francischism; francischurch; peronist; romancatholic
Having covered Vatican affairs throughout this pontificate, I cannot recall a single instance in which Pope Francis made a gracious public response to any critic, on any topic. But I can easily recall dozens of occasions on which he lashed out as his critics—characterizing them as Pharisees and hypocrites, “doctors of the law,” rigid and uncharitable.
1 posted on 09/12/2019 4:21:44 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; ...

Ping


2 posted on 09/12/2019 4:23:03 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

“May?”


3 posted on 09/12/2019 4:34:00 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: ebb tide

He is a very little man.


4 posted on 09/12/2019 5:14:16 PM PDT by pke
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To: ebb tide

Looks like the Pope wants schism. Basically the Catholic Church is going the same way as Protestantism with it’s many denominations based on different interpretations and doctrine. You’ll have a church that is comfortable with all things gay and uncomfortable with Global Warming. It’ll be a church for the modern times. The Amazon synod has the word Amazon which suggests wild women warriors — a wildness in general. The Church definitely has been influenced by feminism and looks to deposit the “deposit of faith” into the trash can of history. The Pope is definitely a heretic but one living in spacious quarters in Vatican city. He is no wild eye monk from the desert nor does he believe in penance or proper retribution for sin. He is a gay collabulary holding court in his private jet as he redefines history as having no consequence and something he has read once upon a time or so... a fairy tale.


5 posted on 09/12/2019 5:19:09 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: BEJ
Looks like the Pope wants schism. Basically the Catholic Church is going the same way as Protestantism with it’s many denominations based on different interpretations and doctrine.

Oh, he's been wanting a schism since December 2016.

Pope Francis’ Reported Words: “I Might Go Down in History for Having Split the Catholic Church”

He's on mission, an evil mission.

6 posted on 09/12/2019 5:25:48 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

It is interesting that Pope Francis and his people are entering the “schism” word into the current narrative.

It certainly not coming from any conservative Catholic I know — even while a deliberate campaign to provoke us to anger is in full force.


8 posted on 09/12/2019 5:39:47 PM PDT by FranklinsTower
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To: ebb tide

bump


9 posted on 09/12/2019 6:38:12 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: FranklinsTower

Francis is setting the stage so the schism(s) will be blamed on the trads aka American rigid right-wing Catholics.


10 posted on 09/12/2019 8:14:25 PM PDT by Marchmain (peace...pax)
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To: ebb tide

While many in leadership are silent and ignoring, not protecting the Catholic faith, they seem to be following the ways of the world as Catholics are selectively choosing their beliefs and actions. Many Catholics accept abortions, adultery,living together, lack of attendance at Mass and the Sacraments, etc.

The strength of the Catholic Faith is that it was established by Jesus Christ and is the Truth.

Jesus warned us about false teachers and preachers.

We all need to pray to the Holy Spirit and the Blessed Mother to end the confusion in the Catholic Church


11 posted on 09/12/2019 8:15:19 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Marchmain

Exactly right. The trads haven’t taken the bait of getting publicly angry to provide the pretext.

Time is running out so Pope Francis has to manufacture the pretext himself.

Trads being the well formed trads they are veeeery slow to anger as the Lord teaches. Something that the Soros globalists cannot comprehend.

Furthermore, they will learn it is not the trads they should be fearing, but the Lord God himself! They are too arrogantly foolish to realize it.


12 posted on 09/13/2019 6:28:38 AM PDT by FranklinsTower
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