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How to Kill a Church
TGC ^ | JANUARY 11, 2019 | Jared C. Wilson

Posted on 09/10/2019 9:46:26 AM PDT by Gamecock

Want to fatten a church for slaughter? The steps are below.

This is a true story.

1. Launch a “church for people who don’t like the church” with a dynamic leader with big ideas and self-help teaching.

2. Care less about biblical depth, discipleship, and leadership character than inspirational messages, excitement, and creativity. Make sure the success is built around the leader’s “brand” so that he and the church are largely synonymous.

3. See the place attract large crowds.

4. See the success go to the leader’s head. Make excuses and accommodations as his short temper, control issues, and lack of accountability begin to take their toll. Accept the loss of numerous quality leaders as the collateral damage necessary to win the attendance war in your city’s ministry marketplace.

5. Continue staking everything on a “killer weekend experience” to the expense of discipleship, community, and mission. Marginalize (or get rid of) anyone who does not get the vision.

6. Watch the leader eventually crash and burn.

7. As the church hemorrhages attendees who were there for “the brand,” fail to learn your lesson and hire a similarly dynamic leader to replace the one who’s fallen. (Make sure he’s at least nice.)

8. Make sure only yes-men ascend to leadership as the new leader tries to rebuild a better version of what crashed the first time.

9. Watch as the new leader drifts further and further away from biblical teaching and more into the world of quasi-spiritual wanderings. Make sure anyone who sees red flags in occasional New Age-type teaching and embrace of heterodox spiritualities can’t do anything about it. When those people leave, don’t care.

10. Watch as liberal theology takes root and slowly drives more and more people out the door. As money dwindles, and staff along with it, take no steps to correct course. Go “all in.”

11. Follow the “new kind of Christianity” all the way to barely-Christianity, and close the doors on what used to be a thriving megachurch.

12. Wonder what went wrong.

This isn’t the only way to kill a church. Some churches dwindle and die through no fault of the leaders. But if you want to kill a church, this is a time-tested way to do it.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: evangelism; megachurch; seekerfriendly
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1 posted on 09/10/2019 9:46:26 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

Ever see the movie, “Come Sunday”?

Worth a watch. It touches on this stuff.


2 posted on 09/10/2019 9:50:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: Gamecock

How to ruin a church.

Put Man in it.


3 posted on 09/10/2019 9:50:50 AM PDT by chris37 (Monday, March 25 2019 is Maga Day!)
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To: Gamecock

Or to sum it up - care more about popularity than sound doctrine.


4 posted on 09/10/2019 9:52:23 AM PDT by Mom MD
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11. Follow the “new kind of Christianity” all the way to barely-Christianity, and close the doors on what used to be a thriving megachurch.

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5 posted on 09/10/2019 9:53:37 AM PDT by Gamecock (Time is short Eternity is long It is reasonable that this short life be lived in light of eternity)
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To: Gamecock

All it takes are a few false prophets.


6 posted on 09/10/2019 9:55:12 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Gamecock
There is only one step.

The clergy stop believing in what they are suppose to teach.

7 posted on 09/10/2019 9:57:43 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: Gamecock

Preach the prosperity gospel.


8 posted on 09/10/2019 9:58:20 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Gamecock

Play a lot of “Jesus Is My Boyfriend” songs in Church.


9 posted on 09/10/2019 10:00:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Gamecock

Feminize it:

Everyone will eventually leave.

You might even get honkies to join a non-feminized faith.

Gosh I WONDER which one THAT is.


10 posted on 09/10/2019 10:06:51 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Gamecock

Bump for later.


11 posted on 09/10/2019 10:23:10 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (If it weren't for fake hate crimes, there would be no hate crimes at all.)
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To: Gamecock

Our small town church just went with the Purpose Driven Life materials
so we are without a church. Many people have left, but the leaders have such control there is no hope for change.
Most there have no use for the Old Testament, thinking Jesus read and preached from the New Testament...unbelievable.
Modern thinking is that God speaks from the pastor now instead of His Word.


12 posted on 09/10/2019 10:26:50 AM PDT by Cottonpatch
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To: Cottonpatch

The scary thing here is that PDL is already way behind the times.

Sigh.

To and fro with every wind of doctrine.


13 posted on 09/10/2019 11:43:01 AM PDT by Gamecock (Time is short Eternity is long It is reasonable that this short life be lived in light of eternity)
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To: Gamecock

Downplay the value of the Bible because “many people have been hurt by it”.
Focus your outreach towards the people who have been hurt by the church
Design your worship towards “seekers” and “questioners”

I’m watching one go under now. We moved to a Scripture-focused church


14 posted on 09/10/2019 11:49:33 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Mom MD

“care more about popularity than sound doctrine.”

A church we attended about 20 years ago was very fundamental, and we liked everything about it. Sermons were sound, etc. One day I was in choir practice, and one of the songs mentioned the blood of Jesus. The director thought maybe they should replace that phrase because “some people are offended by the blood”.

My mouth dropped open. I stared over at the preacher’s wife down the row, waiting for her to say something. She didn’t.

We never went back.


15 posted on 09/10/2019 12:06:00 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly." A. Lincoln)
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To: Gamecock

“the attendance war in your city’s ministry marketplace.”

This right there is what is wrong with many megachurches. Too many leaders are focused on making money rather than leading people to Christ. Give me a small neighborhood church where everybody knows everybody else over any megachurch any day of the week.


16 posted on 09/10/2019 12:10:42 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Gamecock

From the Book “Christless Christianity”:

What would things look like if Satan really took control of a city? Over a half century ago, Presbyterian minister Donald Grey Barnhouse offered his own scenario in his weekly sermon that was also broadcast nationwide on CBS radio. Barnhouse speculated that if Satan took over Philadelphia, all of the bars would be closed, pornography banished, and pristine streets would be filled with tidy pedestrians who smiled at each other. There would be no swearing. The children would say, “Yes, sir” and “No, ma’am,” and the churches would be full every Sunday . . . where Christ is not preached.


17 posted on 09/10/2019 12:13:59 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

One of my favorite quotes.


18 posted on 09/10/2019 12:47:51 PM PDT by Gamecock (Time is short Eternity is long It is reasonable that this short life be lived in light of eternity)
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To: Gamecock

I remember that first time I read the quote, it totally made my reconsider everything I thought I knew about religion.


19 posted on 09/10/2019 12:50:42 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Gamecock

Rick Warren, Andy Stanley, Joel Osteen, are at the top of this list.

Christless, “church entertainmentanity” incorporated.


20 posted on 09/10/2019 1:26:02 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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