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'It was amazing being one of you, but I'm not any more,' says Hillsong's Marty Sampson
Christian Today ^ | 08/23/2019

Posted on 08/24/2019 7:36:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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"Time for some real talk...how many preachers fall? Many. No one talks about it," he said.

"How many miracles happen. Not many. No one talks about it. Why is the Bible full of contradictions? No one talks about it. How can God be love yet send 4 billion people to a place, all coz they don't believe? No one talks about it."

I don't doubt that at one time he genuinely thought himself a Christian-- just like many others who consider themselves Christians and presume on their salvation. However, his Christianity was obviously paper-thin-- planted in shallow ground and awash in the froth of feel-good and glitzy mega-church theatrics. This is blindly obvious by his wonderment at "questions that are never asked."

What kind of church would one attend where basic but hard questions like this are never asked? Even if your main participation in it is holding a guitar for a couple of hours every Sunday, how in a Christian's life do they NEVER come across the "hard questions" of the Christian life?

21 posted on 08/24/2019 8:03:16 AM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Crusher138

I’ve chosen to be outside God’s world in the past.

Trust me, the suffering doesn’t have to wait until after death.

God is the Capo di tutti capi.

It’s bad to cross, denounce or ignore him

Sorry, some of us Italians use gangland language language to express ourselves :)

And NO, i am not comparing God to a gangster!!

But he is the boss of all bosses.


22 posted on 08/24/2019 8:05:46 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: Skywise

...He’s an idiot who NEVER believed or had faith.

He was a charlatan zealot who cares more about appearances and status than ever what God wanted in his life...

A Litte harsh maybe?

We walk by faith not by sight...he took his eyes off of Jesus...his Word says He finds his lost sheep...


23 posted on 08/24/2019 8:14:49 AM PDT by Popman
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To: dfwgator

Sounds Iike it. Using Christianity to elevate his profile. Let’s see what kind of success he will now have in the music industry.


24 posted on 08/24/2019 8:16:49 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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To: dp0622

King of Kings is a term applied to Christ. Close no?


25 posted on 08/24/2019 8:18:18 AM PDT by xp38
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To: dfwgator

Yeah. Never was. He was one of the seeds that started to grow but landed in rocky soil and withered in the sun while the crows ate it.


26 posted on 08/24/2019 8:20:24 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: xp38

My goodness!

He is the capo di tutti capi!!

all joking aside, that was a pretty sharp observation and one that never occurred to me.


27 posted on 08/24/2019 8:22:39 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: SeekAndFind

1 John 2:18-19
18 Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.

I hope that’s not where he is, but that’s what it sounds like.


28 posted on 08/24/2019 8:26:15 AM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: originalbuckeye

“Can’t you see you’re not making Christianity better, you’re just making rock n’ roll worse.” - Hank Hill


29 posted on 08/24/2019 8:27:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Skywise

Perhaps a musician who had a steady gig at a church as opposed to a local nightclub?


30 posted on 08/24/2019 8:27:54 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: SeekAndFind

“How many miracles happen. Not many. No one talks about it. Why is the Bible full of contradictions? No one talks about it. How can God be love yet send 4 billion people to a place, all coz they don’t believe? No one talks about it.”

This is very telling, and it amounts to a pretty good indictment of the modern evangelical church and Christian contemporary music, particularly the shallowness of both. READ A BOOK! These are subjects about which thousands of pages have been written, starting within a few years of the Crucifixion and continuing to the present. It’s feelings versus thinking. From what I can tell, the guy isn’t dumb, but he certainly seems ignorant. He’s thinking about things, which is good, but has no basis for inquiry and no support to get what he needs, which is bad. Somebody send this poor guy some C.S. Lewis audio books, ASAP.


31 posted on 08/24/2019 8:29:21 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Fact: Dogs can extract more info from smelling a pile of $h!t than humans can from viewing CNN)
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To: SeekAndFind
All “seeker-sensitive” churches I’ve been too fail the baby Christians it says it’s trying to keep. They never address controversial teachings that could offend or even just require work or deep thinking. They say the “nice” things from the Bible and never grow their parishioners beyond that.

They also take an operational approach toward getting people in and keeping them. It’s more programmed than a fast food restaurant.

These are really just Christian social groups that appeal to the least common denominator and Christians who want something more solid have to leave the Gerber’s pureed apple sauce of these churches for the meat and potatoes of real Christ-centered churches, elsewhere.

It’s probably well-intentioned, but always winds up a travesty.

32 posted on 08/24/2019 8:32:00 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: dfwgator

I would not go so far as to call him a con man. If he were, he would still be doing what he’s been doing as long as the gig is good.

My take is the man was attracted to the Christian faith, but his roots never went deep.

Jesus talked about different seeds that were planted in His parable about the Sower and the seeds.

Marty Sampson is one of those seeds that was not planted in good soil.


33 posted on 08/24/2019 8:40:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: dfwgator

Yep.


34 posted on 08/24/2019 8:45:28 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (:¬| Beep beep)
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To: SeekAndFind
St. Paul worried about losing his faith and allowing his sinful human nature to destroy him. Faith is a struggle in which we have to face the unholy Trinity of world, Devil, and flesh. Many will allow these enemies of Christ to destroy them. I fear that many of these mega-churches and televangelists are only “acting” and using the Gospel as a means of gain.
35 posted on 08/24/2019 8:46:59 AM PDT by Ullus (Many will fall away.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“He continued: “I want genuine truth. Not the ‘I just believe it’ kind of truth. Science keeps piercing the truth of every religion,” he writes.”

If you’re after the genuine truth about religion, you can’t find it. It is based upon faith with an explanation some equate and understand.

The science you refer to, is based upon theory and not fact, also. So how can you say it pierces something it can’t explain either? And science is supposed to be based upon fact, not faith. Therefore, he needs to consider which one, religious belief or scientific guess, is right for him. One offers nothing as it can’t be proven to the point of its requirement of truth. And the other needs to existence only in faith and offers eternal life. So I guess you could say the faith of a religion is a science as their are doctors in the field. How many pastors are scientists attempting to disprove religion?

rwood


36 posted on 08/24/2019 8:47:46 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: SeekAndFind
Contemporary Christian music has been a great way to reach the next generation, but it tries too hard to be "cool."

Soon, being cool becomes the idol to the point where there is a tremendous fear of "not being cool."

This guy, with his fancy glasses, open leather jacket, gold chains and tats is trying too hard to be cool:

When faced by social disproval, he folds like a cheap suit.

37 posted on 08/24/2019 8:53:51 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Depart from ME. I never knew you.

God is Love. Absolutely. He gave the very Best of having to die on a cross so we’re I e might have the forgiveness of sin.

God is Holy. There can be no sin in his presence. There can be no unforgiven sinners in his Holy presence in Heaven.

The Lord Jesus said:

Matthew 7:13-14 King James Version (KJV)

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Maybe this guy needs to read his Bible. He sounds like he needs to be Born Again for the first time.


38 posted on 08/24/2019 8:54:10 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Skywise

Who is this person? Am I supposed to be wounded and crippled in my faith?

Is he getting set to come out of the closet? Has he discovered Mayor Pete Butt?


39 posted on 08/24/2019 9:00:40 AM PDT by odawg
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


40 posted on 08/24/2019 9:07:16 AM PDT by foreverfree
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