[Mrs. Don-o]

I think the underneath reason (whether openly aknowledged or not) is that they think the body is insignificant and superficial in itself. The body does not, in its design, manifest the power and wisdom of God.

Embodiedness doesn't matter. Matter doesn't matter.

Being male or female therefore doesn't matter. It has no significance and God --- they say --- doesn't really care what you do with your body, because you're basically a Will in an irrelevant flesh costume.

This is radically anti-Incarnational and anti-Sacramental.

It follows that male-female doesn't matter, virginal-spousal doesn't matter. What St. Paul called the Great Mystery (Christ/Bridegroom, Church/Bride) is just, as they say, a "construct," it has no innate significance.

It's the denial of the nuptial design of the body as a Sign.

It strips out the embodied design of the two Sacraments of Vocation --- Holy Matrimony and Holy Orders --- in which maleness and femaleness actually matter.

Does that make sense?

[thecodont]

Embodiedness doesn't matter. Matter doesn't matter.

This sounds like Gnosticism.