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[Cath Cauc] Villanova historian says Chaput, Cordileone, and Strickland are ‘devout schismatics’
Catholic News Agency ^ | July 18, 2019 | CNA

Posted on 07/19/2019 3:41:28 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Villanova historian says Chaput, Cordileone, and Strickland are ‘devout schismatics’

A Church historian at Philadelphia’s Villanova University has said three U.S. bishops are “devout schismatics” who try to diminish the authority of Pope Francis.

“They are devout in the sense that they publicly display their preference for a traditionalist Church and its devotions, such as the rosary. They are schismatics because they openly promote the undermining of the bishop of Rome among the Catholic faithful,” Massimo Faggioli wrote in a July 16 essay for La Croix magazine.

Faggioli made specific mention of three U.S. bishops among those he called “devout schismatics”: Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco, and Bishop Joseph Strickland of Tyler, Texas.

The historian said the “schismatic instincts” of those bishops were manifested in August 2018, when they “sided with Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, the former papal nuncio to Washington who called on Francis to resign.”

Viganò released on Aug. 25, 2018 a “testimony,” which, among other things, accused Pope Francis of ignoring warnings about former cardinal Theodore McCarrick’s sexual deviancy, and then raising McCarrick’s status within the Vatican.

After the testimony was released, Strickland issued a statement calling Viganò’s allegations “credible,” and Cordileone said he could confirm that some of Viganò’s statements were true.

Contrary to Faggioli’s claim, however, Chaput did not endorse Viganò’s allegations. A spokesman told reporters in August that Chaput “enjoyed working with Archbishop Viganò during his tenure as Apostolic Nuncio,” adding that Chaput found Viganò's time at the nunciature “to be marked by integrity to the Church.”

However, the spokesman said that Chaput could not comment “on Archbishop Viganò’s recent testimonial as it is beyond his personal experience.”

In July 19 comments to CNA, Faggioli said that he “did not state that the Archbishop called on Francis to resign or that he created a schism, only that he vouched for Viganò’s integrity. That seems like siding with Archbishop Viganò especially in the context of his continued silence about Viganò’s request for the resignation of the pope.”

Faggioli added that “Viganò put pressure on the pope to resign. One would expect a bishop - and especially an archbishop metropolitan who has twice received the pallium, a sign of special unity with Christ and of communion with the Successor of Peter - to defend the pope’s integrity and to say that no one has the right to ask the pope to resign.”

Shortly after Pope Francis was elected in 2013, Chaput told radio personality Hugh Hewitt that the election had made him “extraordinarily happy, because quite honestly, he is the man I was hoping would be Pope eight years ago.”

Two years later, Chaput hosted Pope Francis in Philadelphia for the 2015 World Meeting of Families. Reflecting in 2018 on that meeting, Chaput wrote that the pope’s “time with us was filled with powerful public moments and deeply grace filled intimate gatherings hallmarked by an overarching spirit of mercy, compassion, and charity.”

“[Pope Francis] has repeatedly challenged us to bear witness to Christ through concrete action—by serving the poor, by helping immigrants, by preserving families, and by protecting the sanctity of life. It’s the kind of challenge we can and should answer with a hearty yes each day,” Chaput added.

In his essay criticizing “devout schismatics,” Faggioli wrote that “dissent against this pope has become radicalized with schismatic instincts because this kind of political devotion is more about a partisan ideology than about the Church. Catholicism was exposed to ideological manipulation by those who do not really care for the Gospel, but who are more interested in a particular conservative political culture.”

Chaput, among those identified as a “devout schismatic,” has frequently emphasized his unwillingness to align with a political party, and criticized partisanship within the Church.

In 2016 he criticized Catholics, especially politicians, who accept “the transfer of our real loyalties and convictions from the old Church of our baptism to the new ‘Church’ of our ambitions and appetites,’ in order to achieve political or personal goals. he group of those who do so “cuts across...both major political parties,” Chaput said.

The Church's canon law defines schism, the charge Faggioli makes against the three bishops, as “the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”

Ed. note: This story was updated July 19 to include comments e-mailed to CNA by Faggioli.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: dictatorpope; francischurch; massimofaggioli; maxbeans; papolatrist; schism
“They are devout in the sense that they publicly display their preference for a traditionalist Church and its devotions, such as the rosary. They are schismatics because they openly promote the undermining of the bishop of Rome among the Catholic faithful,”
1 posted on 07/19/2019 3:41:28 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Ping


2 posted on 07/19/2019 3:41:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Nice spin by an agnostic leftist. This “pope” deserves criticism. Only solace is that as long as Benedict lives, his “election” was a fraudulent usurpation.


3 posted on 07/19/2019 3:47:27 PM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: ebb tide

Chaput for Pope.


4 posted on 07/19/2019 3:49:08 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

I second the nomination...


5 posted on 07/19/2019 3:51:00 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: ebb tide
Faggioli should know better.

Every one of us is subject to the Authentic Papal Magisterium, including the Pope himself. Which is to say, precisely because of the authority of he Papal Magisterium, Pope Francis has no right to contradict that which has been steadily taught by the past 266 popes, including Peter --- let alone to contradict Christ Himself . This he has done, in effect, by inserting pernicious novelties into the Catechism and the AAS.

Pope Francis himself enters into schism every time he breaks communion with all of his predecessors. That scalawag Rosica spoke truer than he knew, when he said that this papacy has shaken loose from Scripture and Tradition. It has shaken loose from its own proper authority in the exact same measure.

6 posted on 07/19/2019 3:58:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (And that's a fact.)
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To: elteemike
I second the nomination...

I had the amazing blessing to spend two hours with Bishop Chaput at a Kateri conference in Spokane. We were staying at the same hotel, and happened to stop in the bar area after the conference. I invited myself down and bought several bottles of wine as we sat and talked. He is a God filled man.

7 posted on 07/19/2019 4:02:00 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: ebb tide

Massimo Faggioli, often called Max Beans on Catholic twitter, demands that all Catholics “think with Pope Francis,” and by that, he means that Catholics must refrain from criticizing the pontiff and agree with all Bergloglian pronouncements and opinions no matter how absurd.

My gut feeling tells me that Max was not such as papalist prior to 2013.


8 posted on 07/19/2019 4:04:44 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler

Wish someone expert would pipe up about the potential for him to be found an Anti-Pope.


9 posted on 07/19/2019 4:13:17 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: ebb tide

A historian ought to learn the definition of the word “schismatic” before writing on it.


10 posted on 07/19/2019 4:14:01 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("...a choice between Woke-fevered Democrats and Koch-funded Republicans is insufficient."-Mark Steyn)
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To: ebb tide

I have talked to Archbishop Cordileone for quite a while waiting for a plane to Rome a few years ago, and HOLINESS emanated from him!! LOVED HIM!!


11 posted on 07/19/2019 4:21:57 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ebb tide

Three good guys who have the guts to speak up at a time when we Catholics are having our faith attacked by the Argentinian Jesuit living in a Vatican hotel.


12 posted on 07/19/2019 4:54:44 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: ebb tide
FAGgioli also thinks that anyone who criticizes James Martin is a Nazi and that "Blaming the abuse scandal in the Catholic Church on homosexuality is a form of post-truth".
13 posted on 07/19/2019 5:04:04 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: CdMGuy

Three good guys who have the guts to speak up at a time when we Catholics are having our faith attacked by the Argentinian Jesuit living in a Vatican hotel.

I'm just repeating what you said, because you said it so well.

14 posted on 07/19/2019 6:08:42 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Dearly beloved, with fear and trembling work out your salvation." - Philippians 2:12)
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Looks like we are getting closer to a 🔥 hot schism.
16 posted on 07/19/2019 6:45:57 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: irishjuggler

Thank-you but NO AND HECK NO THANK-YOU!


17 posted on 07/19/2019 6:49:19 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Al Hitan; Biggirl; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; irishjuggler; G Larry; ...
The Curious Case of Maximum Beans
18 posted on 07/19/2019 8:21:08 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide
"...because this kind of political devotion is more about a partisan ideology than about the Church." (Remove the beam from thine own eye....)

"Catholicism was exposed to ideological manipulation by those who do not really care for the Gospel, but who are more interested in a particular conservative political culture.”"

It seems to me that the "ideological manipulation" is grounded in a particular SOCIALIST political culture.

19 posted on 07/20/2019 5:36:17 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: FatherofFive

We here in Denver were fortunate to have Bishop Chaput as our archbishop for a time...Your description as a “God-filled man” is so true, IMHO...

Robert Cardinal Sarah is another...Again, IMHO...I’m no theologian; just a flawed man struggling to remain faithful...The Church needs a leader...


20 posted on 07/21/2019 8:36:16 AM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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