Skip to comments.[Catholic Caucus] Australian Bishops to Discuss Women Priests, LGBT Inclusion
Posted on 06/22/2019 6:36:41 AM PDT by ebb tide
2020 Australian Plenary Council has broad range of topics, including ideas at odds with Catholicism
ADELAIDE, South Australia (ChurchMilitant.com) - At a much-anticipated meeting next year, Australia's bishops will consider ideas such as ordaining women, giving Holy Communion to non-Catholics and supporting same-sex marriage.
In October 2020, the Church in Australia will have a Plenary Council, at which all of Australia's active bishops will convene. Organizers are also scheduling a second session for mid-2021, likely in Sydney.
The website for the Plenary Council lists a series of "National Themes for Discernment" that will guide the discussion. These themes, the website states, are extrapolated from input given by the laity in a large-scale survey.
In preparation for the Plenary Council, dioceses throughout Australia have been gathering survey responses and hosting events called "listening and dialogue encounters." Participants were asked to reflect on the question: "What do you think God is asking of us in Australia at this time?"
The council's website states that there have been more than 12,000 individual submissions and more than 4,000 group responses.
One of the "National Themes" listed on the site is titled "Inclusive, participatory and synodal." The webpage describing this theme states, "This National Theme for Discernment is inspired by the voices of the People of God who expressed a desire for individuals and groups within and also beyond the Church to find a better welcome and be incorporated more into her life and mission."
It also says, "There was an expressed need for stronger connections across the many parts of the Church, and with other Christian traditions."
Under the heading of "inclusive, participatory and synodal," some of the specific subjects listed for discussion are LGBT inclusion, ending priestly celibacy and female ordination.
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These subjects appear in a "word-cloud" graphic on the council's website, which presents phrases from the survey responses in a jumble of bright colors and different font-sizes.
Included in the graphic are the following phrases:
Another phrase included in the word-cloud graphic is "Restore the Third Rite of Reconciliation." This is another name for general absolution, where a priest gives the absolution without penitents confessing their sins.
This is only supposed to be done in extreme circumstances, especially where there is a threat of death such as with a group of soldiers before battle. But in some parts of Australia, general absolution was used broadly after the Second Vatican Council until the Vatican cracked down in the 1990s when Church authorities deemed the practice an abuse. Some have pointed out that those who were guilty of mortal sin were still supposed to go to confession the normal way as soon as they were able.
But there are some less controversial phrases as well, such as "better use of finances," "right-to-life issues," "care for the family" and "better preparation and support for married couples."
Regarding the nationwide opinion survey, several of Australia's bishops have said that they want feedback from vast numbers of people with diverse viewpoints including viewpoints that may be at odds with Catholic teaching.
Archbishop Tim Costelloe of Perth is president of the Plenary Council. He said in a video about the council, "Before everything else, our job is to listen."
He added, "We will need to listen to many different voices, for God speaks in many different ways, some of them likely to surprise us."
Archbishop Costelloe also said in that video, "No matter where you might find yourself in relation to the Church deeply involved, only partially engaged, uncertain or disillusioned or even angry, on the margins, or perhaps a friendly or critical outsider looking in we need to hear from you."
Likewise, Bp. Vincent Long Van Nguyen of the Parramatta diocese once said about the "listening" process in preparation for the council, "[T]here must be space for everyone, especially those who have been hurt, excluded or alienated, be they abuse victims, survivors, divorcees, gays, lesbians, women, disaffected members."
Bishop Long argued that the Church "will be less than what Christ intends it to be when issues of inclusion and equality are not fully addressed."
Doesn’t the “church” ALWAYS have room for more Sinners? Oh, wait, the “sinners” don’t want THEIR SIN called out.
My old church is soooooo dead.
Now if only God will throw down those pearly gates and make Heaven inclusive to demons as well.
I’m surprised they didn’t include “Ordination of ‘married’ lesbians”.
“”Modernize Church teachings””
What this phrase represents is the total abandonment of the faith based on not only a firm, unwavering belief in Christ’s teaching, but a sin-based acceptance of The World.
How many of these priests of the church are deep in sin and mired in the muck to the point of being unable to repent?
So much easier to create a Doctrine of Devils rather than live the hard teachings of Jesus.
Why did you remove my statement? I am a well known catholic and have had enough of the wholesale destruction of the Faith.
It has always been possible to take a hard stand against the heresies that crop up over the thousands of years of the church, and now, certainly is the time to fight.
Well, sorry about that. For some reason my post was not showing up.
There’s been an Eastern Rite Catholic Church on Beacon Hill in Seattle, for thirty years or more, that is comprised of people who were repelled by what was going on in the regular Catholic churches around here.
Speaking of LGBTQ stuff, today Microsoft flooded my computer with a bunch of pro-LGBTQ crap. My entire screen was filled with it when I turned on my computer.
Only those churches are dead where the fighters have abandoned their posts.
The question “Is the Pope Catholic?” is no longer rhetorical. The Catholic Church has been corrupted by social justice.
"Because of the increase of evildoing,the love of many will grow cold. But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved."
"We will need to listen to many different voices, for God speaks in many different ways, some of them likely to surprise us."
What a GREAT excuse/rationale for implementing this crap.
"No matter where you might find yourself in relation to the Church deeply involved, only partially engaged, uncertain or disillusioned or even angry, on the margins, or perhaps a friendly or critical outsider looking in we need to hear from you."
No, you don't. Why listen to heretics and non-Catholics?
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