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Pope Francis: Chinese bishops know they ‘must be good patriots’ to Communist regime
LifeSite News ^ | May 29, 2019 | Claire Chretien

Posted on 05/29/2019 2:47:36 PM PDT by ebb tide

Pope Francis: Chinese bishops know they ‘must be good patriots’ to Communist regime

May 29, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – In his recent marathon interview with a Mexican journalist, Pope Francis said “relations with China are good, very good” and that two Chinese bishops – one Vatican-appointed from the “underground” Church and one appointed by the Communist government – with whom he recently met “know that they must be good patriots.”

For decades, the Catholic Church in China largely existed underground. It faces persecution from Communist authorities. Pope Francis’ controversial deal with China allows the government to nominate clerics from its state-run “church,” the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association, for the Vatican to make bishops.

The bishops and priests in the “underground” Catholic Church are validly ordained.

Cardinal Joseph Zen of Hong Kong has repeatedly spoken out about the Vatican-China deal, decrying it as a betrayal of the Catholic faithful in that country.

“My dream is China. I love the Chinese very much,” Pope Francis told Mexican journalist Valentina Alazraki. Catholic News Agency (CNA) translated his remarks. “Relations with China are good, very good.”

“The other day two Chinese bishops came to me, one who came from the underground church and the other from the patriotic church, already recognized as brothers,” the pontiff said. “They came here to visit us. This is an important step. They know that they must be good patriots and that they must take care of the Catholic flock.”

CNA’s report continued:

When asked if some Catholics “felt sidelined” by the Sino-Vatican agreement signed in September 2018, the pope responded, “Catholics in general no. Catholics are happy to be united now.”

“In fact Easter was celebrated all together, all together and in all the churches. There were no problems this year,” he said.

Chinese government officials detained Father Peter Zhang Guangjun, an underground priest of the diocese of Xuanhua, after Palm Sunday Mass on April 14. Guanjun was one of three priests held in detention by authorities in China in April 2019.

Pope Francis also told Alazraki that he takes accusations of heresy “with a sense of humor.”

“I also pray for them because they are wrong and poor people, some are manipulated,” he said. “And who are those who signed...?”

That question was an apparent reference to a recent open letter accusing the pontiff of heresy. The letter was issued as “a last resort to respond to the accumulating harm caused by Pope Francis’s words and actions over several years, which have given rise to one of the worst crises in the history of the Catholic Church,” according to its signers. One of the original signers was Father Aidan Nichols, one of the most respected theologians in the English-speaking world. 

Another signer, Dr. John Rist, told LifeSiteNews that he is now barred from all Pontifical Universities.

There have been numerous other efforts calling out Pope Francis for seemingly contradicting Catholic teaching on adultery, the sacraments, hell, the death penalty, and other significant topics. These include a letter from 45 academics asking the pontiff to correct errors in Amoris Laetitia and a “Filial Correction” accusing him of spreading seven heresies, at least by omission, about “marriage, the moral life, and the reception of the sacraments.”

The dubia of four cardinals asking Pope Francis to formally clarify whether Amoris Laetitia contradicts Catholic morality has been unanswered since the pontiff received it in September 2016. It has gone unanswered for 982 days. Two of the cardinals who submitted it to the Pope are now dead.

During the same interview with Alazraki, Pope Francis compared President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall to the Berlin Wall that separated communist East Germany from freedom in the west. He also said he was “angry” over media reports that he suggested that parents should consult a “psychiatrist” for counseling children with same-sex attraction and that if Christians “were to convince” themselves that homosexuals and those in “irregular” relationships are “children of God, things would change a lot.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: apostate; chicomms; china; commiepope; francischurch; heretic; hypocrite; patriots; popefrancis; redchina; satanspope
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Just days ago, Francis was condemning "nationalism" and "patriotism" in his bid to open Europe up to the muslim invaders, and today he's praising "patriotism" in Red China.
1 posted on 05/29/2019 2:47:37 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Biggirl; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; irishjuggler; G Larry; ...

Ping


2 posted on 05/29/2019 2:48:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Pope Che’


3 posted on 05/29/2019 2:48:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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To: ebb tide

Boy, compare this guy to JPII.


4 posted on 05/29/2019 2:49:06 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: ebb tide
So *now* patriotism is a good thing all of a sudden?

5 posted on 05/29/2019 2:50:29 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: ebb tide

When you don’t believe in Catholic doctrine and don’t really want it taught, it’s easy to let godless communists pick your clergy for you!


6 posted on 05/29/2019 2:52:04 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: ebb tide

bttt


7 posted on 05/29/2019 2:53:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ebb tide

Bergoglio the Pretender is the worst thing to happen to the Roman Catholic Church in five hundred years.


8 posted on 05/29/2019 2:54:13 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: ebb tide

Would this pope dare say such a thing in regard to American Roman Catholic bishops??? Not a chance in hell!!!!


9 posted on 05/29/2019 2:58:38 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: ebb tide

He wants them to be good little Communists.


10 posted on 05/29/2019 2:59:21 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: ebb tide; All
We must combat religion. That is the ABC of all materialism and consequently of Marxism.

— Lenin
No communist thinks that a Christian can be patriotic.
11 posted on 05/29/2019 3:00:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: ebb tide

No problem because Francis is a commie himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B65mtE2TN1w


12 posted on 05/29/2019 3:04:45 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; SunkenCiv; ..

The Pope for Sodomy & Stalinism.


13 posted on 05/29/2019 3:11:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: ebb tide; Salvation

The Pope is led by God and was chosen by a majority of godly Cardinals from AROUND THE WORLD to represent God’s Church.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a heretic.


14 posted on 05/29/2019 3:12:10 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

He is led by his own personal “god of surprises”.

Follow Bergoglio and his “god” at your own risk.


15 posted on 05/29/2019 3:19:10 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ConservativeMind
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16 posted on 05/29/2019 3:31:48 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Communism and the Church in China
Pope Pius XII - 1958

10. For by particularly subtle activity an association has been created among you to which has been attached the title of “patriotic,” and Catholics are being forced by every means to take part in it.

This association — as has often been proclaimed — was formed ostensibly to join the clergy and the faithful in love of their religion and their country, with these objectives in view: that they might foster patriotic sentiments; that they might advance the cause of international peace; that they might accept that species of socialism which has been introduced among you and, having accepted it, support and spread it; that, finally, they might actively cooperate with civil authorities in defending what they describe as political and religious freedom. And yet — despite these sweeping generalizations about defense of peace and the fatherland, which can certainly deceive the unsuspecting — it is perfectly clear that this association is simply an attempt to execute certain well defined and ruinous policies.

11. For under an appearance of patriotism, which in reality is just a fraud, this association aims primarily at making Catholics gradually embrace the tenets of atheistic materialism, by which God Himself is denied and religious principles are rejected.


17 posted on 05/29/2019 3:44:13 PM PDT by teacherwoes (Indoctrination is often done under the shadow of a ballot)
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To: ebb tide

This idiot pope has no issues supporting a regime that enslaves, imprisons, rapes, murders, and destroys it’s own people.

False Prophet Francis is singing the devil’s tune again.


18 posted on 05/29/2019 3:55:56 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: ebb tide

My question is why is China even pretending to tolerate Catholicism?

I mean they are, but we know it’s mostly a fraud.

Since when did they care what the outside world thought?

Heck they’re putting millions of muslims into camps.

Forget the Nut for a minute. What is different about Catholics in the eyes of the communist regime? Is it because they are not causes atrocities all over the world like muzzies so Chinese govt. thinks they’re less of a threat?


19 posted on 05/29/2019 4:09:12 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: ConservativeMind; ebb tide; Salvation
CM: Your ideas, taken in their absolute sense, do not reflect Catholic doctrine.

Perhaps a subtle deployment of satire?

20 posted on 05/29/2019 4:27:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie.")
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