Posted on 05/19/2019 6:53:20 PM PDT by marshmallow
Screw u.
So many morons, so little time.
I have to agree with you that the Dems are much more in line with Russian interests, if for no other reason that they, the Dems, are now getting close to simply getting rid of our nukes and removing us a world power.
But as far as US interests go, I do think we* have a decent amount in common with Russia. For example, the former Yugoslavia went to war mainly due to Christian/Muslim conflict - our interest was for the Christians to win [even given that the Deep State took the other side], the Russians had the same interest. Same with Syria, it was in our interest that Assad stay in power [despite the Deep State, who wanted ISIS] and it is the same for Russia.
When we get to our hemisphere, then I would agree that our interests diverge, but in that case, the Russians are more filling a power vacuum because we won’t take care of our own backyard.
Obviously on social issues, we’re very much in line with Russia, even given that the Dems are just the opposite, and the Republican Party would rather just wish them away and ignore them.
*’we’ in this context are people who do not hate this country, nor think they can impose democracy on other countries that have no interest in it.
Yeah, the islamo-nazi countries also oppose homosexuality. Should we stand and applaud them too, while putting aside all the atrocities they’re guilty of?
McGruff, like a few others on this site, you are nothing less than a complete fraud, a FAKE patriot, and pro-Russia TROLL. Your only purpose on the site is to defend, support, and promote KGB Putin and his aggressive, expansionist evil empire agenda.
Just be happy that this isn’t my site. Because I’d have thrown your and your comrades fake patriot azzes off of here years ago.
National defense is our NUMBER ONE interest.
And not only do the George Soros-supported far left dems want to "simply get rid of our nukes and remove us a world power.", they have bent over backwards helping make Russia's military position stronger!
Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to "show his manhood."
The real estate mogul and reality-TV star, who has criticized Putin for sending military troops into Crimea, said Obama must now take fierce steps to prevent the situation from escalating further.
"We should definitely do sanctions and we have to show some strengths. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time," Trump said. ..."
http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098
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Heres the interview w/ Matt Lauer on YouTube...
Donald Trump (2014): Vladimir Putin Has Eaten Obamas Lunch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzURUENf1ns
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What were dealing with is the you know, theres an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.
And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.
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JULY 2017...
Jul 6, 2017
President Trump called Russia a destabilizing influence in Europe and the Middle East, and urged it to join the community of responsible nations, in his strongest remarks yet against the regime of Vladimir Putin, whom he is scheduled to meet Friday in Hamburg for the first time.
His remarks in Warsaws Krasinski Square, which marks the 1944 Warsaw uprising against the Nazis, came after the U.S. agreed to sell Patriot missiles to Poland. The president also used the opportunity to reiterate the NATO commitment to mutual defense, a declaration he did not make during the NATO summit in May, prompting consternation among U.S. allies wary of Russias ambitions.
To those who would criticize our tough stance, I would point out that the United States has demonstratednot merely with its words but with its actionsthat we stand firmly behind Article 5, the mutual-defense commitment, Trump said Thursday. Words are easy, but actions are what matters. And for its own protection, Europe, and you know this, everybody knows this, everybody has to know this, Europe must do more.
Trump has repeatedly said NATO members must spend more on defensea position in line with past U.S. administrations. But he has been criticized because he appeared to suggest U.S. commitment to mutual defense was predicated on its allies defense spending. ...
https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/07/trump-russia/532761/
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Feb 9, 2017:
February 9, 2017
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In his first call as president with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump denounced a treaty that caps U.S. and Russian deployment of nuclear warheads as a bad deal for the United States, according to two U.S. officials and one former U.S. official with knowledge of the call.
When Putin raised the possibility of extending the 2010 treaty, known as New START, Trump paused to ask his aides in an aside what the treaty was, these sources said.
Trump then told Putin the treaty was one of several bad deals negotiated by the Obama administration, saying that New START favored Russia. ...
or,
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LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said NATO was obsolete because it had not defended against terror attacks, but that the military alliance was still very important to him, The Times of London reported.
I took such heat, when I said NATO was obsolete, Trump told the newspaper in an interview. Its obsolete because it wasnt taking care of terror. I took a lot of heat for two days. And then they started saying Trump is right.
Trump added that many NATO members were not paying their fair share for U.S. protection.
A lot of these countries arent paying what theyre supposed to be paying, which I think is very unfair to the United States, Trump said. With that being said, NATO is very important to me. Theres five countries that are paying what theyre supposed to. Five. Its not much.
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"President Trump has been very clear," Stoltenberg told fill-in host John Roberts.
"He is committed to NATO. He stated that clearly just a few days ago and also at the NATO summit in July.
But at the same time, he has clearly stated that NATO allies need to invest more. And therefore at the summit in July last year, we agreed to do more to step up -- and now we see the results."
In all, Stolenberg continued, "by the end of next year, NATO allies will add hundred 100 billion extra US dollars toward defense. So we see some real money and some real results. And we see that the clear message from President Donald Trump is having an impact."
In July 2018, NATO leaders pledged their unwavering commitment to boost defense spending, following stern words from the president. The U.S. and European allies signed a declaration stating they were committed to improving the balance of sharing the costs and responsibilities of alliance membership.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
FYI, it was the George Soros-supported DEMOCRATS who helped strengthen Russia's military hand, while at the same time, practically dismantling OUR OWN military.
If you are a serious patriot, unlike mcGruff, mac_truck and others of their fake ilk, you really need to read up on the reality of what's going on.
If you are a legit FReeper, you can start with the posts I've made on this thread (bypassing the comparatively meaningless Putin potential pedophile stuff), and follow up at my FR Profile page by clicking ETL below. Otherwise, just ignore what I've said here and go back to helping these (other) fake patriots push the KGB/FSB Putin line, something very much the total opposite of the Trump-Pence position on Putin and Russia.
Not that it matters much...lol!
Seriously, how can you possibly support and respect a regime who was caught red-handed colluding with the Soros-supported Democrats in an elaborate KGB-style misinformation grand deception scheme to help Hillary defeat Trump in the 2016 election? That one fact alone should be enough for even the dumbest jackass out there to understand that he is an adversary.
Lol...go sell that GCHQ bullcrap somewhere else.
Ok, brother idiot azz.
You provided evidence? and who in hell are you, just a one issue voter I suppose.
Hold on,let's be clear. You do *not* believe that (your friends) the Russians actually tried to help Hillary get elected, not Trump?
Yes, I compiled a mountain of evidence from several trusted sources in part to help get the message out to people that it was actually the DEMOCRATS who had colluded with the Russians, something that SHOULD have been obvious as hell to everyone here since the get-go, but clearly wasn't.
Some here, mostly the fake patriot Putinistas and other ignorant and badly misguided souls, actually were attempting to defend the (alleged by the phony left) 'collusion' between the Russians and Trump. This, while the precise opposite had actually taken place.
The Putinistas only supported Trump when they (mistakenly believed that he would be soft on Russia, and even 'friendly' with them. However, they sure were wrong about that, wern't they? Lol!
I knew for a long time that it was absurd to think that Putinista mac_truck's and McGruff's boys (the Russians) would have wanted Trump-Pence over a pathetically weak-on-defense Hillary Clinton administration.
In fact, Obama-Hillary practically dismantled our military, while at the same time, they propped up the Russians', via accommodating missile defense and nuke deals, including the Iran nuke deal, which mac_truck's hero, KGB/FSB Putin loved so much and bragged to have played a large role in formulating.
Then of course there was/is the Hillary-Obama Uranium-One scandal, where the Obama-Hillary admin allowed the Putinistas' pals in Russia to grab control of over 20% of our uranium production!
Now take your "research" and run along back to your limited hangout like a good little tool.
You fake _____! It's an absolute FACT that the people in the Ukraine who were helping Hillary-Obama-Biden were all PRO-RUSSIA people! Much more will be coming out about this (in the news) in the weeks to come. You phony son of an *itch.
For any legit FReepers listening in, check out my FR Profile page for the reality of the Russia-DEMOCRAT collusion story. This punk mac_truck and his pro-Russia comrades are total fakes. Why they are permitted to remain here is beyond understanding. They are working on behalf of a serious and major enemy of the US.
explain why Omar isn’t being investigated for immigration fraud and marrying her brother. The powerful always skate.
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