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"Quid est veritas?" What is the truth about Pontius Pilate?
Gloria Romanorum ^ | April 15, 2017 | Florentius

Posted on 04/20/2019 7:46:18 AM PDT by Antoninus

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For Holy Saturday. This is particularly useful when modern folks claim that there is no corroboration for the life of Christ outside of Sacred Scripture.
1 posted on 04/20/2019 7:46:18 AM PDT by Antoninus
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He was a bureaucrat who wanted no troubles and law/order.

To accomplish this he needed to work with the Jewish power structure in Judea.

He was not going to send his governance into chaos over a poor Jew. No matter guilty or innocent.

It really is that simple.


2 posted on 04/20/2019 7:53:02 AM PDT by 2banana (Were you)
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The writings of Philo and Josephus proved nothing about Pilate’s existence, the doubters said. Those two were just repeating stories they heard. Pilate was probably a mythical character, made up to advance the Jesus story.

The discovery of the Pilate Stone changed all that.


3 posted on 04/20/2019 7:59:20 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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He would have made a great GOP-e.


4 posted on 04/20/2019 8:13:11 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
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To: Leaning Right
The writings of Philo and Josephus proved nothing about Pilate’s existence, the doubters said. Those two were just repeating stories they heard. Pilate was probably a mythical character, made up to advance the Jesus story. The discovery of the Pilate Stone changed all that.

The doubters who cast aspersions on documentary evidence from antiquity find themselves perplexed with some regularity.
5 posted on 04/20/2019 8:15:10 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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Pilate is a “saint” in the Coptic church in Egypt (I believe his saint day is June 25th). He is said to have become a devout follower of Jesus and a leader in the early church.
Interesting . . .


6 posted on 04/20/2019 10:05:50 AM PDT by impactplayer
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Pilate is a “saint” in the Coptic church in Egypt (I believe his saint day is June 25th). He is said to have become a devout follower of Jesus and a leader in the early church. Interesting . . .

I've seen that, but the evidence is not compelling.
7 posted on 04/20/2019 10:34:20 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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No, he IS a saint in the Coptic Church - Rome does not find the evidence compelling.


8 posted on 04/20/2019 11:18:05 AM PDT by impactplayer
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“No, he [Pontius Pilate] IS a saint in the Coptic Church - Rome does not find the evidence compelling.”

That would cause me to wonder if Judas Iscariot is also a saint in the Coptic Church of Egypt?


9 posted on 04/20/2019 12:33:52 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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Judas did not repent - you are assuming the same is true for Pilate. The Coptic Church knew him well - - - I have no reason to doubt their decision.


10 posted on 04/20/2019 1:44:09 PM PDT by impactplayer
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pilate was picked as governor to keep a lid on the powder keg that was the land of the jews

he had to deal with jewish politicians who wanted to maintain their own power

he had to deal with a festival crowd overflowing in a city which was turbulent in NORMAL times

The romans generally used a zero tolerance policy to handle things


11 posted on 04/20/2019 2:32:01 PM PDT by elbook
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“He is said to have become a devout follower of Jesus and a leader in the early church.
Interesting . . .

the pagan romans put great stock in ‘signs’ and auspices — and apparently there were very significant ones the day of Jesus’s death


12 posted on 04/20/2019 2:36:16 PM PDT by elbook
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He was a bureaucrat who wanted no troubles and law/order.
You've just described most of the modern "inside-the-Beltway" Republicans.
13 posted on 04/20/2019 2:47:21 PM PDT by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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Judas did not repent - you are assuming the same is true for Pilate. The Coptic Church knew him well - - - I have no reason to doubt their decision.

Why did the Coptic Church know him well?
14 posted on 04/20/2019 3:49:44 PM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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The Coptic Church knew him because he lived with them - this was the church with Mark as their leader. It really is a fascinating story of redemption and forgiveness - and his wife played a key role.


15 posted on 04/20/2019 4:09:53 PM PDT by impactplayer
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The Coptic Church knew him because he lived with them - this was the church with Mark as their leader. It really is a fascinating story of redemption and forgiveness - and his wife played a key role.


16 posted on 04/20/2019 4:23:04 PM PDT by impactplayer
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The weak, vacillating and ultimately cruel and cowardly figure of Pontius Pilate is one of the most enigmatic figures in Sacred Scripture.

The one person.. the ONLY person... to try to block Jesus's crucifixion... not once, not twice, but THREE times... when even Jesus knows what has to happen to get all of our sins forgiven... and yet Pilate still gets unending hatred for 2000 years. SMH.

17 posted on 04/20/2019 4:39:53 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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Teacher317, I think you are not giving due consideration to Pilate's wife, who is the ONLY person who unambiguously stood up for Jesus and called him innocent at the time of his trial (Matthew 27:19).

Pilate knew he was innocent, but allowed him to be crucified: a form of punishment only the Roman law could inflict.

18 posted on 04/20/2019 4:57:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Lord have mercy on us, your scattered children.)
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Judas did repent at least in a narrow sense. “I have sinned by betraying innocent blood.” But the Church leaders forsook him and he never received the Word of forgiveness. “What is that to us. See to that yourself.”


19 posted on 04/21/2019 5:17:09 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Mayor Pete, It's "Public Office," not "Public Orifice.")
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The Coptic Church knew him because he lived with them - this was the church with Mark as their leader. It really is a fascinating story of redemption and forgiveness - and his wife played a key role.

Where is the evidence?
20 posted on 04/22/2019 6:42:54 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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