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To: TigerHawk
I would ask, if you are a law keeper, how you have kept the Law since 70AD with no temple? How do you reconcile Zech 12:10 if Jesus wasn't the one pierced in Jerusalem? Why did Jacob (Israel), give Joseph a double portion for Manasseh and Ephraim if not to adopt Gentiles into the Promise of God?

I can't understand the hostility of your post for a Christian. I'm not a clown for one thing. I made the point that Israel is proof that God exists and I know the history of Israel and I'm certainly not an atheist.

I didn't say you must believe in Jesus as a Jew. I wasn't proselytizing you to change because Christians know God has blinded you in order to graft me into the family. If you were honest, you would know you can't keep all the Law and need grace and mercy. Without a Temple, how does that happen?

Now let my prophesy over you a moment. Some day there will be a 3rd Temple. Israel will rejoice and bring back the sacrificial Temple system. There will be a man that you love that will make all this possible. This same person will one day sit in the Holy of Holies and declare that he is God. He will stop animal sacrifice again. He will mimic the story that you get Hanukkah from. We read Maccabees to get this story.

A Messianic Jew would be a great source to explain the Last Days if you cannot receive from a Christian.

Paul was one of our greatest Apostles because he was educated by Gamaliel, one of the greatest Rabbi's at the time of Jesus. Putting the Tanach and the B'rit Chadashah together is the key to understanding God's message to His people.

It's difficult to say the Torah should be followed to the letter and have sodomites in your military. There are self righteous Jews that believe they are doing good that have fallen off the wagon for decades. There are Jews today slaughtering chickens in the streets of Israel to try to keep the sacrifice system today. Jesus was the Lamb of God given to us by the Father and removed our sins forever onece and for all. He lived a perfect life, He was without blemish, and He was a perfect sacrifice for man that an animal couldn't accomplish. He prophesied that there would not be one stone left on another from the Temple and it came to pass in 70 AD. An earthly temple is no longer needed. There are countless prophesies fulfilled by Jesus so I won't even try to cover them here.

I'm not saying that Jews are right. I'm not saying that Jews won't hurt themselves and others. What I am saying is they are my family in the eyes of God. I am saying that God has put up with their idol worship and sin for thousands of years and continues to do so. God will not give up the Jews anymore than I could give up my daughter.

You say you have been accused of being "clannish and exclusive". Christians say they are set aside, "Holy" and a peculiar people. Following God in a secular world will always call attention to yourself. The families of the world have already been blessed by Israel by producing Jesus. You are the keeper of the Word of God and all the covenants are made with Jews.

I don't want to scare you, but another holocaust is coming. As I described in my original post all Hebrew babies were drowned by Pharaoh because Moses was elected to save Israel. Haman wanted to kill all the Jews in Persia but Ester saved them. over and over Satan wanted to wipe out Israel but God saved the remnant. All of human history will boil down to one man and his followers trying to kill everyone in Israel once again. God will once again come rescue them but the price to be a Jew is high. Christians will be persecuted as well, but Christians that are saved before the Antichrist is revealed will be Raptured out of danger. Just as Noah and his family were protected from God's judgement 7 days before the rain started and Lot was removed from Sodom before the fire fell, the church will be called to meet Jesus in the air before the first seal is cut in Revelation 6. The first seal will be the Antichrist is released on the earth. Then comes the four horsemen. Death and misery will be worldwide. Anyone that accepts Jesus as their substitutionary sacrifice will be taken as the Bride of Christ. The Jews will be left behind to scramble until God comes to save Israel. Now that you know the truth, there is no need for you to meet the Beast.

God bless you, God bless Israel, and peace to Jerusalem.

17 posted on 03/08/2019 10:07:40 AM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles

I meant you no disrespect whatsoever. When I wrote “You are such a clown.” I was referring to your posting name “chuckles”, and alluding to the famous episode of the Mary Tyler Moore show when she can’t help laughing at the funeral of “Chuckles, the Clown” who was killed when an elephant sat on him (as I recall)...That’s why I wrote, “Sorry, I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity,” because it was such a cheesy joke. I figured that everyone knew about “Chuckles, the Clown.”

Again, my most sincere apology. I meant you NO DISRESPECT, OR INSULT WHATSOEVER!

As for a response to the rest of your arguement to my missive, well, we’re talking deep theology here that I am not able at this time to address satisfactorily (and may never be able to fully address). It will have to remain for another time...or many other times, I expect.

I bear no animus to Christianity, I simply do not agree with, nor do I accept some of the basic tenets, as I am a Jew, not a Christian. Let me say this to you, however, as I have just read further into your reply to me.

G-D does not lie. EVER. The very FIRST COMMANDMENT is “I AM THE LORD THY GOD! THOU SHALT HAVE NO GODS BEFORE ME!”

If one does not accept that then don’t read on, because this is not for you. If one does accept that FIRST COMMANDMENT with all their heart and soul, then there is no possibility of accepting any other form of deity whatsoever. I do not expect you to believe that with all your heart and soul, but, as a Jew, I do. I also believe that Jesus, was a Jew to his last breath, and as such would have accepted the FIRST COMMANDMENT with ALL his heart and soul, and been appalled, HORRIFIED at the thought of being himself deified, in direct contradiction to the FIRST COMMANDMENT.

We are both free to believe as we do, and I, for one, see no purpose for further discussion of the matter. Torture unto death would NOT alter my beliefs, let alone mere argument, and I do not seek to alter, or denigrate yours. There is no basis for argument.

Again, be certain that I meant you no disrespect when I refered to you as a clown...a good joke gone bad. Sorry.


21 posted on 03/08/2019 3:13:10 PM PST by TigerHawk
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