Posted on 02/27/2019 4:01:18 PM PST by ebb tide
A new survey suggests Catholics who attend the Old Rite are more faithful to Church teaching
Catholics in the US who attend the traditional Latin Mass a far more faithful to Church teaching than those who attend the Novus Ordo, a survey has found.
A study led by Fr Donald Kloster compared Catholics who attend the traditional Mass (TLM) with the results of previous surveys of Catholics at large, the vast majority of whom attend the Novus Ordo Mass (NOM).
The authors found that 99 per cent of Catholics who attend the TLM fulfil their weekly obligation, compared to just 22 per cent of those who go to the NOM. Ninety-eight per cent also go to Confession at least once a year along with weekly Mass, compared to 25 per cent of NOM attendees.
The survey also found that TLM attendees are far more sympathetic to Church teaching on moral issues. Just two per cent of Catholics who attend the TLM approve of contraception, one per cent approve of abortion, and two per cent support same-sex marriage.
In contrast, previous surveys suggest 89 per cent of NOM attendees approve of contraception, 51 per cent support abortion, and 67 per cent support same-sex marriage.
Fr Kloster said that through more than 20 years celebrating both forms of the Roman Rite, he noticed differences between the congregations. The survey, he said, “reveals a striking variance between Catholics attending the TLM versus those who attend the NOM. These differences are dramatic when comparing beliefs, church attendance, monetary generosity, and fertility rates.”
Women who attend the TLM have a fertility rate of 3.6, compared to 2.3 for NOM women.
“Importantly, TLM families have a nearly 60% larger family size,” Fr Kloster added. “This will translate to a changing demographic within the Church.”
“TLM attendees donate 5 times more in the collection, indicating that they are far more invested than the NOM attendees. TLM Catholics go to Mass every Sunday at 4.5 times the rate of their NOM brethren. This implies a deep commitment to the faith. The almost universal adherence to the Sunday Mass obligation depicts Catholics who are deeply in love with their faith and cannot imagine missing their Sunday privilege.”
Interesting... as a non Catholic I dont know what the difference is, but my old boss, who I knew was very strict Catholic with 5 kids, recently told me that he changed to a TLM mass and his mom went with him, but everybody else in his family is now against him saying he is tearing the family apart... wife, kids and brothers & sisters all NOV and think he has completely lost it.
None of the above is surprising, but correlation doesn’t equal causation. Those drawn to the Latin Mass would be already predisposed to the traditional teachings of the church; returning the Latin Mass would not necessarily affect the disposition of those presently attending Novus Ordo Mass.
The Novus Ordo was just one element of a post-Vatican II church that was designed to promote mediocrity in Catholicism.
I respectfully disagree.
We had elections in parts of CT yesterday.
The NOM folks didn’t vote.
The TLM folks didn’t vote.
The Congregationalists vote heavy.
When the Congregationalists start attending TLM, the state will change.
Can you please cite the exit polls you are referring to?
None of the above is surprising, but correlation doesn’t equal causation.
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LOL! That has been the standard argument of the defenders of that satanic conclave known as the Second Vatican Council for the last 50 years as it became blatantly obvious that the Council had introduced changes clearly designed to destroy every vestige of orthodox Roman Catholicism.
https://www.olrl.org/misc/jones_stats.shtml
The Novus Ordo was just one element of a post-Vatican II church that was designed to promote mediocrity in Catholicism.
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https://www.olrl.org/misc/jones_stats.shtml
returning the Latin Mass would not necessarily affect the disposition of those presently attending Novus Ordo Mass.
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Perhaps not necessarily, but as one who attends the TLM I can confirm that the disposition of those I’ve met who left the Novus Order and now attend the old Rite has been profoundly affected.
Voting records are public information
With the weekly bulletin and website, you can make a list of 40 or more people active in a parish
That link doesn’t support your spurious claim.
Annual confession?
We attend the Latin service, which I find to be a far more beautiful and holy experience than the regular mass. We go to the Dominican rite, I’m not sure if it differs from “TLM”. The choir singing mostly acapella in Latin is amazing. I pray way more during this service than others, as I think the whole presentation lends itself to that.
The people are mostly very devout, many with 6 to 9 kids.
Not a judgement on people with less kids (I have only 3) - or who prefer the English mass! But these stats don’t surprise me.
Unfortunately, the Novus Ordo priest who put this together offers both the Novus Ordo service as well as the Latin Mass, so he probably gave no thought to the former issues.
And you would be respectfully wrong. Science calls the phenomenon "self selection".
the doctrines of Vatican II (such as ecumenism, religious liberty, non-Catholic religions, etc
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I can tell you that those who adhere to the doctrines of the Faith as clearly defined by the Council of Trent, and as clearly set forth in the Catechism of The Council of Trent, ordered published by Pope Saint Pius V, firmly believe that those so-called doctrines of Vatican II are in direct conflict with the unchangeable dogmas of the Catholic Church.
I agree with you. I just think that there are a number of Latin Mass attendees that are really just so-called "conservative" Novus Ordos (those who focus mainly on the moral issues related to sex: abortion, homo marriage, adultery, etc but still think Vatican II is Catholic) that really only go to the TLM for the "smells and bells".
This survey conducted by a Novus Ordo priest (who probably agrees with the Vatican II "doctrines") doesn't tell the whole story for various reasons.
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