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To: ealgeone
One who misrepresents Catholic doctrine in the fashion you have just done, in the preceding post, must do so comprehensively. This is unsurprising. Why? Because one must begin with premises which are false, and then filter everything he sees and hears through those premises.

Hence everything is distorted, but distorted in the same direction.

For instance, I posit that everything aboutMary is premised in her being a creature, a handmaid of the Lord, the first indeed to accept Jesus as her personal Savior ("my spirit rejoices in God my Savior") --- you posit that we Catholic regard her as a goddess to be adored on a par with God. It's simply not true.

This distortion makes sense to you because you claim to know better than Catholics, what Catholics actually believe.

To a person who holds such an astonishing presumption I could say, "But stop right there,that is not what I believe," and expect the rejoinder, "Hush, I know what you believe. You don't."

I say, go ahead with what you may call a dialog, but leave me out of it. Your kind of dialog runs smoother when you do it on your own.

51 posted on 12/10/2018 10:20:05 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
If another denomination was making those claims would you dismiss those?

For instance, I posit that everything aboutMary is premised in her being a creature, a handmaid of the Lord, the first indeed to accept Jesus as her personal Savior ("my spirit rejoices in God my Savior") --- you posit that we Catholic regard her as a goddess to be adored on a par with God. It's simply not true.

Rome's own writings are saying it for anyone who is willing to look at it objectively.

53 posted on 12/10/2018 10:43:21 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom; Mom MD; Elsie; daniel1212; boatbums
For instance, I posit that everything aboutMary is premised in her being a creature, a handmaid of the Lord, the first indeed to accept Jesus as her personal Savior ("my spirit rejoices in God my Savior") --- you posit that we Catholic regard her as a goddess to be adored on a par with God. It's simply not true.

That Mary is a created being compounds the error of Roman Catholicism.

Rome is taking a created being and equating to that being goddess like abilities and is treating that being with the worship one would of a goddess.

Roman Catholics may try to dance around the issue by declaring Mary is not a god, as an eternal being, all knowing, etc....but that is pretty much how she is being treated.

The prayers TO Mary, the kneeling before idols of her, the multiple statements claiming one has to go through her to get to Jesus...or even have a shot at salvation, the feminized version of the titles ascribed reserved for Christ that have been ascribed to her....all those scream worship to one looking in on Roman Catholicism.

Romans 8:26 tells us the Holy Spirit is able to do hear and understand the prayer of every believer.

Roman Catholicism has equated to Mary the abilities of the Holy Spirit in her "ability" to hear, answer, and understand each and every prayer of the Roman Catholic....just as the Holy Spirit.

It that isn't error I don't know what else it.

Presuming there are 1,000,000,000 Roman Catholic and each one says one prayer a day....just one....that's 11,574 prayers a second Mary has to be able to hear, perfectly respond to and answer....and instruct Christ on what to do.

Still say she's not treated like a goddess in Roman Catholicism?

Now before you say God can grant anyone abilities if He desires, which He could, let us consider the following.

Roman Catholicism says He could not keep Jesus sinless while being birthed through Mary which gave rise to Rome introducing the error of the Immaculate Conception which as has been demonstrated is not supported by Scripture nor found in Scripture and contradicts Scripture.

Think about this....Rome is saying God can grant Mary the ability to handle prayers on a level with that of the Spirit....yet He cannot preserve His only begotten Son from being contaminated by sin while being carried by a being HE CREATED!!!

Below is but one of many Roman Catholic prayers to Mary....it is the "morning consecration prayer to Mary" compared to the Greatest Commandment.

An honest mind will the idolatry of the Roman Catholic prayer when compared to Scripture.

Consecration to Mary Greatest Commandment from Matthew 22:37-38 NASB
My Queen and my Mother,

I give myself entirely to you;

and to show my devotion to you, I consecrate to you this day my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart,

my whole being without reserve.

Wherefore, good Mother, as I am your own, keep me, guard me,

as your property and possession. Amen.

37And He said to him,

“ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART,

AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL,

AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’

38“This is the great and foremost commandment.

If you substituted any other name in the consecration prayer you would quickly identify the falseness of the prayer and denounce it. But because your denomination has said it's "ok" you don't question it.

The Roman Catholic is devoting their entire being to a created being....not the Creator....but the created.

Still say Roman Catholicism doesn't treat Mary like a goddess??

You have been deceived if you say no.

56 posted on 12/10/2018 12:24:10 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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