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Does the Catholic Church Have a Homosexual Problem?
Christian Post ^ | 08/22/2018 | Michael Brown

Posted on 08/22/2018 9:56:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Salvation

“Does every church have a homosexual problem?”

Not to any significant degree.


41 posted on 08/22/2018 12:34:45 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Salvation

His church that He built. Not the RCC sect built on peter.


42 posted on 08/22/2018 12:35:58 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Salvation
Celibacy isn’t the problem. Homosexuality is the problem.

If you got rid of all the queer priests, bishops and cardinals, there wouldn't be nearly enough clergy to keep your religion in operation...

43 posted on 08/22/2018 12:55:09 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: DungeonMaster
Is the Pope Catholic?

That may not be a valid question...

44 posted on 08/22/2018 12:57:03 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: SeekAndFind
The Catholic Church has a spiritual problem.

Men who rape children are criminals. The rapists should have been turned over to the police as soon as the first victim came forward.

It's just as easy for the Pope to forgive a man in prison as to forgive a man in a rectory. And prison is where these so-called priests belonged.

45 posted on 08/22/2018 1:01:03 PM PDT by GOPJ (Trump's building an underground railroad... a path that leads to freedom, jobs, and dignity...)
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To: jobim

Does the American Federation of Teachers?
Does the Dept. of Parks and Rec?
Do the Olympic Figure Skaters?
Does the Modern Language Association?
Do the Boy Scouts?
Does the National Education Association?


46 posted on 08/22/2018 1:36:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts." - Sgt. Joe Friday)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

Yeah. Gay Clericalism.


47 posted on 08/22/2018 1:36:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts." - Sgt. Joe Friday)
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To: Iscool
there wouldn't be nearly enough clergy to keep your religion in operation...

We started off with eleven (because one of the twelve was a traitor). We'll be fine.

48 posted on 08/22/2018 1:39:24 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Agreed. Quality over quantity every last time.

Pius XI advised this strongly in his encyclical on priestly formation. Too bad no one seems to have remembered that.


49 posted on 08/22/2018 1:55:35 PM PDT by Hieronymus ((It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Boomer
I don’t see how there can be any doubt as to the homosexual and pedophile problem running through the priesthood.

As the article pointed out, the problem is not primarily pedophilia, which is sex with children before the age of puberty. Their studies have shown that the great majority of those molested were post-puberty, which means the problem is not pedophilia but homosexuality. Many of the victims were young men attempting to become priests, and were pressured to have gay sex or lose their place in the seminary. One report I read said that the seminary, if it dismisses someone, that young person has to repay the expenses of his education; and that many vulnerable young men from poor backgrounds submitted to the pressure rather than burden their families.

In my experience as an older person who grew up in an America when homosexuality was overwhelmingly regarded as an unfortunate, unwelcome and/or sinful behavior, there were decades in which I struggled to come to terms with the political pressures in favor of it—decades in which I, and most other people, simply could not form dispassionate language or objective comments about it—the understanding of homosexuality as an abomination in God's eyes had been deeply impressed upon most Christians. It took actual grad school study of the history of constitutional law regarding family for me to be able to discuss the matter objectively, even though I worked in the arts for 40 years and had many gay friends and colleagues.

So I think this deep abhorrence for acts that Catholic teachings regard as unholy and offensive to God has retarded the Catholic church's recognition or appropriate action about this crisis. And now it simply can't be swept under the rug any more—it's become so deeply institutionalized that wiping it out threatens to destroy, economically and reputationally, the entire RC church. By extension, all of Christianity will suffer.

50 posted on 08/22/2018 1:57:44 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Interrupt Obama and reporters are racist; interrupt Trump and they're heroes. --Mark Levin)
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To: Boomer; Salvation
Salvation may want to comment on this as well, but here's what I would say:

According to biblical commentators, ancient Israelite cities were encircled by defensive walls, and their gates were the locations of the markets and public gathering spots, where the elders, judges, and king held court. So the "gates" were not just the physical doors, but also the powers of a city.

So the "gates of hell" means the "powers of hell." The powers of hell want to destruction of the Church. So the passage means that the powers of Hell will not succeed in destroying the Church.

I do not think this means the Church is entirely invincible in every situation. History shows that this not so. But in the final instance, there will always be a remnant of the Church. It will not be finally and totally wiped out.

51 posted on 08/22/2018 2:00:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts." - Sgt. Joe Friday)
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To: NorthMountain; SeekAndFind

Or the Eastern Orthodox CATHOLICS.


52 posted on 08/22/2018 2:01:14 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Mom MD

Looked it up. Peter is the guy Jesus was talking to.


53 posted on 08/22/2018 2:02:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts." - Sgt. Joe Friday)
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To: Salvation

The problem is a hierarchy who watched the door while the abuse was going on and enabled every bit of it.


54 posted on 08/22/2018 2:02:08 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Iscool

Jesus started with Twelve.


55 posted on 08/22/2018 2:03:05 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts." - Sgt. Joe Friday)
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To: Salvation

The Catholic church has become the gates of hell.

They long ago forfeited the right to call themselves Christian or a church with their sordid history of corruption and immorality.


56 posted on 08/22/2018 2:04:36 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: NorthMountain; Iscool

You’ve had 2,000 years to try.

It hasn’t happened yet. You are not fine now and tyou never were.

And you’re not going to be.


57 posted on 08/22/2018 2:06:14 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Albion Wilde
As the article pointed out, the problem is not primarily pedophilia, which is sex with children before the age of puberty. Their studies have shown that the great majority of those molested were post-puberty, which means the problem is not pedophilia but homosexuality.

Any perv going after young teens would do kids in a heartbeat given the opportunity.

It's not better because it was teens and not kids younger. It was probably just a matter of access.

58 posted on 08/22/2018 2:07:51 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Iscool

Now, the $64 dollar question is, what do you do about it in a culture where increasingly anyone who even mildly criticizes anything gay gets charged with a hate crime?

Do you think the Church is going to purge them and then withstand the withering Twitterstorm and assault by Liberal government at all levels looking to punish them?

Personally I don’t.


59 posted on 08/22/2018 2:09:29 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: metmom
"The Catholic church has become the gates of hell."

Moral defamation against a billion-plus people. You usually manifest a more exacting judgment and a greater regard for truth that that, metmom.

60 posted on 08/22/2018 2:09:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts." - Sgt. Joe Friday)
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