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Catholic Caucus: Ed Peters on Twitter
Ed Peters, Twitter ^ | 7/31/2018 | Ed Peters

Posted on 07/31/2018 4:23:07 PM PDT by sitetest

Edward Peters ‏

@canonlaw 21h 21 hours ago

More Many talk as if ROME needs to authorize an investigation into McCarrick and his ilk before anything can happen. Don't folks realize that any friend, or foe, of the Church with money can hire an army of highly skilled, private investigators, right now? And that some likely have?


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: badclergy; investigations; layactivity
I'd be willing to redirect any money usually given the institutions of the Church to an effort like this.
1 posted on 07/31/2018 4:23:07 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: sitetest; Mrs. Don-o; ebb tide; marshmallow; NKP_Vet; Loyalist; CTrent1564; narses

ping

This is from one of the Church’s foremost canon lawyers. Sounds like a suggestion.


2 posted on 07/31/2018 4:31:49 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: sitetest

Good idea. Maybe those wealthy Catholic donors hoodwinked by McCarrick could kick it off.


3 posted on 07/31/2018 5:40:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I wouldn’t even know how to start something like this, but if it got started, I’d be a weekly donor.


4 posted on 07/31/2018 5:53:28 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: sitetest
This is exceedingly interesting.

Who would spearhead this project? I'd nominate Marjorie Murphy Campbell the journalist and also criminal and canon lawyer who appeared with Raymond Arroyo on EWTN's "The World Over" and also wrote this scathing Open Letter to the USCCB on the Cardinal McCarrick Scandal

And how could we fund it?

IDK. Just off the top of my head.

I'm not talking about getting the whole thing stalled and compromised by the USCCB or any official Church body approving, running or funding it.

5 posted on 07/31/2018 6:06:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Kicking asterisk and taking names.)
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To: sitetest

Yeah, I bet 10,000 people would willingly chip in their weekly envelope.


6 posted on 07/31/2018 6:18:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Kicking asterisk and taking names.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; sitetest
Money from Dioceses? A lay-headed, lay-directed campaign with $$$ ginned up from the "best" bishops like Olmstead (Phoenix), Conley (Lincoln), Kagan (Bismarck), Sheridan (Colorado Springs) the "good" Tobin (Providence), Chaput (Philadelphia), Morlino, (Madison), Naumann (Kansas City)?

It is not a surprise that not one of the "best" bishops you have mentioned has been elevated to the college of cardinals.

7 posted on 07/31/2018 6:27:40 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: sitetest
“Rightly do we pull off thy ring, the sign of fidelity, since thou hast made bold to rape God's own bride, the Church.”

https://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm…

Plus, visit Marjorie Murphy Campbell at Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/marjorie.m.campbell

8 posted on 07/31/2018 6:28:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Kicking asterisk and taking names.)
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To: ebb tide

Bingo.


9 posted on 07/31/2018 6:29:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Kicking asterisk and taking names.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’d nominate someone in law enforcement, curmudgeonly, and orthodox, with the vice chairman someone like Ed Peters.

Clergy could publicize and endorse, but should have no direct involvement at all. Otherwise, I’d have no interest.

A cleric may be given a minor, subordinate role, once he’s been thoroughly investigated and cleared of 1) homosexuality; 2) enabling homosexuals; 3) covering up homosexuals or; 4) involvement in any sin against chastity.


10 posted on 07/31/2018 6:37:33 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: sitetest

Yes! Curmudgeonly LEO with testicular fortitude bump


11 posted on 07/31/2018 6:46:22 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Kicking asterisk and taking names.)
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To: sitetest; Mrs. Don-o
Remember Frank Keating?

Needless to say, the whole thing blew up. Before long, Governor Keating had resigned his position, declaring that the bishops behaved “like Cosa Nostra.”

Here is what he said in his resignation letter:

My remarks which some bishops found offensive, were deadly accurate. I make no apology. To resist grand jury subpoenas, to suppress the names of offending clerics, to deny, to obfuscate, to explain away; that is the model of a criminal organization, not my church.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2018/07/cardinal-mccarrick-frank-keating-blew-the-whistle-a-long-time-ago/

12 posted on 07/31/2018 6:51:27 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Keating. Axios!


13 posted on 07/31/2018 6:53:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Kicking asterisk and taking names.)
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To: ebb tide
Now, Basil was a Bishop!

“Any cleric or monk who seduces young men or boys, or who is apprehended in kissing or in any shameful situation, shall be publicly flogged and shall lose his clerical tonsure.

Thus shorn, he shall be disgraced by spitting in his face, bound in iron chains, wasted by six months of close confinement, and for three days each week put on barley bread given him toward evening.

Following this period, he shall spend a further six months living in a small segregated courtyard in custody of a spiritual elder, kept busy with manual labor and prayer, subjected to vigils and prayers, forced to walk at all times in the company of two spiritual brothers, never again allowed to associate with young men.”


14 posted on 07/31/2018 7:05:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Kicking asterisk and taking names.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

the problem is, a demon like mccarrick might like being in the company of two male companions at all times. He’d enjoy the challenge of trying to corrupt him.

St. Basil had it wrong: sentence him instead to permanent solitary confinement with no human contact ever again.


15 posted on 07/31/2018 7:12:35 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It was the disgraced homo-friendly Roger Cardinal Mahony who called out the loudest for Keating's dismissal.

LA bishop criticizes Keating remarks

16 posted on 07/31/2018 7:19:48 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Basilio was brilliant. The offender “shall be disgraced by spitting in his face, bound in iron chains.”

Every guilty bishop would be fortunate to have the above punishment in this life rather than the due punishment in the next life.


17 posted on 07/31/2018 8:13:19 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: Falconspeed

Amen.


18 posted on 08/01/2018 4:36:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Kicking asterisk and taking names.)
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