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To: ebb tide
You don't believe in the remission of original sin with the Sacrament of Baptism?

Nope. The concept of original sin is not taught in Scripture.

69 posted on 07/29/2018 7:52:46 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom

How come nobody went to Heaven until Jesus was crucified?


72 posted on 07/29/2018 8:20:52 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: metmom

So why is baptism necessary?


73 posted on 07/29/2018 8:25:52 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: metmom

Depends on the definition of original sin, I suppose.


80 posted on 07/30/2018 6:49:51 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: metmom; ebb tide

The concept of original sin is not taught in Scripture.


metmom - I’m not sure what your understanding of the concept of original sin is. My understanding is that which is described by Paul in his letter to the Romans, Chapter 5, verses 12-21.

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans+5&version=KJV


88 posted on 07/30/2018 7:54:47 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: metmom
The concept of original sin is not taught in Scripture.

Assuming you mean by that that you don't believe in it, you've cleanly discarded Christianity itself.

Without original sin, some people can get to heaven without Jesus. If some people can get to heaven without Jesus, the next apostasy is to assert that all people can get to heaven without Jesus. The next apostasy after that is to assert that Jesus was nobody special.

Yet your rejection of original sin, which makes Protestantism, Catholicism, and to a great degree Orthodoxy into dead letters, will earn no condemnation from the anti-Catholic crowd here.

96 posted on 07/30/2018 9:26:48 AM PDT by Campion
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