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'Not a morally upstanding guy,' yet Trump has the love of millions of Christian conservatives
The Washington Examiner ^ | June 10, 2018 | Salena Zito

Posted on 06/10/2018 1:49:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

KENOSHA, Wis. — Jill Gilmore is one of those voters who have confounded both Democrats and Never Trump Republicans the most. She is a college-educated, gun-owning female conservative Republican who voted for Donald Trump. But here’s the real kicker: She is also a devout Evangelical Christian.

“In the list of what is most important to myself and my family, faith is always first,” said the striking 34-year-old mother of seven, small business owner, and community volunteer who says she and her husband teach their children daily that behavior and respect towards others is not an option, but a requirement.

Contrast the Gilmore Golden Rule with her vote for Donald Trump — who is accused of an affair with a porn star, and who does not have a reputation for politeness and respect for others — and her decision stuns the sensibilities of both his resisters and experts.

From their perch they see a moral conflict, but she sees her support for Trump as a pragmatic, not ideological, decision. This was a calculation made by millions of religious conservatives, a cadre my co-author Brad Todd and I call the “King Cyrus Conservatives” in The Great Revolt.

Gilmore sees that calculation as paying off, especially now....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: duplicate; evangelicals; qanon; trump; zito
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I see Jill doesn’t get out very much.

Naive is no way to navigate through life, woman.


21 posted on 06/10/2018 2:27:11 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: a real Sheila

Sometimes it takes a Jerk.

I don’t always want a President like Trump, but the times call for one like Trump.


22 posted on 06/10/2018 2:27:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

POTUS Trump doesn’t drink, smoke or do drugs. He also thinks the 20 week Fetal Pain Abortion Ban should have been signed into Law and that Planned Murderhood shouldn’t get one dime in Taxpayer Funding.

Spare me the morally corrupt crap because he MAY HAVE had a fling. Still an unproven ALLEGATION.

They are getting desperate to separate the POTUS from his supporters.

Besides, I wasn’t Voting for a Pope.


23 posted on 06/10/2018 2:28:53 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: dfwgator

Any Christian knows we are ALL flawed men.

ANY of us could be ACCUSED of the things Trump is ACCUSED of by someone who wants to engage in character assassination.

Heck they even set up Jesus and had Him crucified.

Living a morally pure and upright life is no guarantee against people bad mouthing you.


24 posted on 06/10/2018 2:31:24 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: a real Sheila

Sometimes you have to let the bull into the china shop.
Those times are now!


25 posted on 06/10/2018 2:31:34 PM PDT by Reily
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These comments really do not make much sense to me. If Trump is not morally upstanding that means all others before him were, and this is the first time we have had such a scoundrel in office.


26 posted on 06/10/2018 2:36:32 PM PDT by mulligan (EeThe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


I LOVE TRUMP


27 posted on 06/10/2018 2:38:22 PM PDT by onyx (JOIN 300 CLUB BY DONATING $34 MONTHLY! TRUMP'S WAY IS THE WIINNING WAY)
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To: a real Sheila

You think President Trump is a jerk???

Suppose you substantiate that with some facts. Things you have personal knowledge of, and not from CNN or late night comedy.


28 posted on 06/10/2018 2:38:28 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am so sick and tired of hearing the media talk about Donald Trump’s “flaws” as though he’s uniquely contaminated.

He’s no more flawed than they are, we are, for the world is.

Some of us are just forgiven by God’s grace.


29 posted on 06/10/2018 2:40:13 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am so sick and tired of hearing the media talk about Donald Trump’s “flaws” as though he’s uniquely contaminated.

He’s no more flawed than they are, we are, for the world is.

Some of us are just forgiven by God’s grace.


30 posted on 06/10/2018 2:40:13 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This whole line of attack was never anything more than the Alinsky-esque "make the enemy obey his own rules" ploy. The people making these accusations hop beds like a three-balled tomcat on Saturday night, so please spare us the phony outrage, because if we want a moral exemplar he or she sure isn't going to come from the staffs of CNN, MSNBC, the NY Times, Esquire, or Cosmopolitan, who are too busy with the Pride Parades this month to bother to talk to any Christians about what they do believe before telling them what they ought to believe.
31 posted on 06/10/2018 2:44:13 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: a real Sheila

“A jerk?!”

In what way is our pro-American, pro-Israel, pro-military, pro-veterans, pro-life, pro-religious liberty, President a jerk?


32 posted on 06/10/2018 2:45:14 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: dfwgator

Exactly! The enemedia’s contempt for Evangelical Christians and Conservative Jews is based on pure prejudice. They know nothing of what they speak.

Unlike their Satanic master, these smarmy “journalists” are unable to quote scripture for their purpose because they’ve never actually read the Bible. Their monomaniacal mission is to make people of faith look foolish, but “stories” like this one just ring hallow and reveal the messengers’ ignorance and evil intentions.

The truth is not complicated: People of faith realize God chose Donald Trump to be his Instrument. President Trump is to us a modern-day Cyrus.

Isaiah 45 (excerpts, New Revised Standard Version)

Thus says the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus,
whose right hand I have grasped
to subdue nations before him
and strip kings of their robes,
to open doors before him—
and the gates shall not be closed:
For the sake of my servant Jacob,
and Israel my chosen,
I call you by your name,
I surname you, though you do not know me.

I am the Lord, and there is no other;
besides me there is no god.
I arm you, though you do not know me,
so that they may know, from the rising of the sun
and from the west, that there is no one besides me;
I am the Lord, and there is no other.

I have aroused Cyrus in righteousness,
and I will make all his paths straight;
he shall build my city
and set my exiles free,
not for price or reward,
says the Lord of hosts.

I the Lord speak the truth,
I declare what is right.


33 posted on 06/10/2018 2:51:13 PM PDT by agave (Jesus: Bigger Than the Beatles)
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To: agave

They’ve fallen for the Alinsky trap, of ‘Making the enemy live up to their standards.’


34 posted on 06/10/2018 2:51:56 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: PCPOET7

“there is the fact that the left loves to slander individuals and construct straw man arguments about those people who have values.... Trump is not perfect but look at his life and how he interacts with people and you know you are dealing with a man who has moral will to draw on.....I look at those in the media and politics who attack him on morality issues and it seems to come from very immoral people that put on a show for everyone virtue signaling what morally upstanding people they are when the fact is that all that morality is to these individual is a point of manipulation of those who have real values.”

Exactly! The same people that tell us that Jesus would vote for the communist is every election because he wants us to give everything to the poor, voluntarily or not. Reminds me always of the story about the devil quoting scripture...


35 posted on 06/10/2018 2:59:19 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: airborne
If every person were totally honest they would repeat your words.

People can change. I’m living proof of that.

I know I have sinned and I know I have chosen to change!

36 posted on 06/10/2018 3:05:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The left has no standing to criticize Trump’s faults when they excuse the lying, thievery, dishonesty, traitorous behavior, slander, and murder of the politicians they like.

Yeah, Trump’s not perfect. Neither am I. And neither are they.


37 posted on 06/10/2018 3:26:46 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Traitors are more dangerous than enemies. Vote and act accordingly.)
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To: notaliberal

Let’s just say Clinton, Obama and Trump in their own ways were scumbags before being elected. All three wives follow suit and stand by their man. Two of the three (Clinton and Obama) never changed and became worse as Presidents AND as men while their wives are petty, bitter, narcissistic and hypocritical. President Trump shows character and conviction. His wife shows grace. I think some of the vitriol of the left is absolute jealousy and seeing their dream to destroy America put on hold. Only a Liberal sees a scumbag as perfect as long as he/she is towing the liberal line. I don’t always find President Trump necessarily completely conservative and if he won as a Democrat, none of this would be an issue. He is the right leader for now and thank God for him.


38 posted on 06/10/2018 3:30:25 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: dfwgator

I’ve a hunch Ms. Gilmore knows PDJT gave his heart to Christ while attending Billy Graham’s 95th birtday dinner in NC. Therefore, PDJT is a NEW person, but really a babe-in-Christ, who occasionally slips up. I’ve been saved 56 years, and I STILL slip up. We need a Savior; and we HAVE one. Praise Jesus!


39 posted on 06/10/2018 4:13:35 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: shanover

“Let’s just say Clinton, Obama and Trump in their own ways were scumbags before being elected.”

No, I don’t think I will.

Donald J. Trump did many, many things prior to even thinking about running for office for people that NOBODY else would help. He did it in a heartbeat, never asking or expecting anything in return, and no media attention.

Check the record. Much came to light only because of the campaign.

Don’t be too sanctimonious, sweetcheeks.


40 posted on 06/10/2018 4:15:23 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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