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Cardinal De Kesel Wants Church to Accept Homosexual Fornication
Gloria TV ^ | May 3, 2018 | Gloria TV

Posted on 05/03/2018 5:01:05 PM PDT by ebb tide

Cardinal De Kesel Wants Church to Accept Homosexual Fornication

“The Church must respect homosexuals more - also in their experience of sexuality”, Brussels Cardinal Jozef De Kesel, an enemy of the Church, said during a meeting with the gay group “HLWM” on April 24.

According to the gay propaganda webpage hlwm.be De Kesel claimed that the condemnation of homosexual acts is “no longer sustainable”.

De Kesel referred to Francis’ words “Who am I to judge” when he was faced with homosexual allegations against one of his collaborators. According to De Kesel such words would have been unthinkable "ten years ago" [when Benedict XVI was in charge].

De Kesel admitted that he himself, twenty years ago, would have spoken differently about homosexuality and would have followed the teaching of the New Testament and the Church.

According to De Kesel the [dying] Church in Europe “has changed for the better”, but the Church in Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia “is not yet included” in this change "for the better".


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: franciscardinals; francischurch; homos
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1 posted on 05/03/2018 5:01:06 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Ultimately, this will not end well for the proponent of this policy.


2 posted on 05/03/2018 5:02:35 PM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: ebb tide

“he himself, twenty years ago, would have spoken differently about homosexuality and would have followed the teaching of the New Testament and the Church”

If you no longer follow these then why stay in your position?


3 posted on 05/03/2018 5:07:51 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: ebb tide
The Apostle Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, would disagree with the reprobate Cardinal.

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. .....Romans 1: 18-32

4 posted on 05/03/2018 5:21:26 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: ebb tide
What? You mean, like, inside the church building, in the pews?

I’m no expert, but I think such lewd acts in such a public place might offend your target audience...

5 posted on 05/03/2018 5:25:30 PM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: ebb tide

ebb tide - Please remove post 4. I realized after I posted that this was a Catholic Caucus thread. Mea Culpa.


6 posted on 05/03/2018 5:25:54 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

No problem. No offense taken.


7 posted on 05/03/2018 5:38:03 PM PDT by ebb tide (Remember Alfie and Charlie; boycott the UK.)
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To: ebb tide

Ready for Reformation II?

Will a Cromwell descendant please pick up the brown courtesy phone?


8 posted on 05/03/2018 5:41:15 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: LeoTDB69
If you no longer follow these then why stay in your position?

Because it has evidently become many of these renegade priest's and prelate's perceived destinies to destroy the Church, like a microbe in the gut that boars from the inside out.

They would become, and have us the dhimmi.

9 posted on 05/03/2018 5:50:00 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: LeoTDB69
"If you no longer follow these then why stay in your position?"

You can't even call that the, "Missionary Position"!

10 posted on 05/03/2018 6:01:27 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: LeoTDB69
This is 10,000 times worse than the sin of the ordinary wretched sodomite. What filth these filth these lost shepherds are feeding to their flock.

What has he done with the grace of his ordination?

Of those to whom so much has been given, much more will be expected.

11 posted on 05/03/2018 6:21:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." - 1 Peter 4:17)
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To: ebb tide

**the [dying] Church in Europe**

Europe will come back stronger than ever and will be completely straight Catholic.


12 posted on 05/03/2018 6:30:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; All
Catechism of the Catholic Church

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

13 posted on 05/03/2018 6:32:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Thank you for your post!


14 posted on 05/03/2018 6:59:31 PM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: married21

You’re welcome!


15 posted on 05/03/2018 7:00:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

Hey, Card! Howzabout taking a look at Romans 1?

It’s a “book”.

In the “Bible”.

It talks DIRECTLY about you and your ilk.

Yes, I mean “ilk.”


16 posted on 05/03/2018 7:12:03 PM PDT by Ken Regis
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To: ebb tide

Wow , can someone please explain to me why the “Catholic” church is embracing sin ? Maybe Obama wasn’t the Anti-Christ and he/she/it ended up in the ranks of the Catholic church ? What else explains the actions of Francis and his crew members ( I am a a humble , grateful Christian that easily understands that homosexuality is a sin . )


17 posted on 05/03/2018 7:16:09 PM PDT by mythenjoseph
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To: ebb tide

These people should be ousted. I cannot imagine how Catholics can put up with this.


18 posted on 05/03/2018 7:46:32 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus. He says absolutely amazing things, which few dare consider.)
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To: Bellflower
“I cannot imagine how Catholics can put up with this.”

Well, how “Americans” put up with Nancy Pelosi. The answer is that most of us don't out up with her; we forbear.

19 posted on 05/03/2018 7:50:12 PM PDT by utahagen (but but)
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To: mythenjoseph; mindburglar; Flavious_Maximus; Unam Sanctam; DuncanWaring; CdMGuy; Bookshelf; ...
These are judas priests and wolves in shepherds' clothing.

They are teaching things that would have been vehemently rejected by every one of their predecessors and every one of the canonized saints, i.e. against the authentic Magisterium. They are not teaching Catholicism.

They are opposing Catholicism.

They need to be denounced by the lay Catholics, rejected by the clergy, and deposed by the Pope.

Grant this, O Lord.

20 posted on 05/04/2018 7:22:32 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." - 1 Peter 4:17)
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