Posted on 04/17/2018 11:02:37 AM PDT by ebb tide
A single line in Cardinal Raymond Burke’s address at the recent "Catholic Church: Where are you going?" conference concerned the consequences of necessary disobedience to Pope Francis. Burke has already faced demotion at the hands of Pope Francis but many have wondered what he’d do if the penalty for his resistance to the Pope’s departure from Church teaching would be intensified to excommunication.
LifeSiteNews asked Cardinal Burke if he has ever envisioned such consequences for himself as he has walked his path of resistance to the Pope’s direction on communion for divorced and "remarried" Catholics.
In his talk at the April 7 conference, Cardinal Burke referred to the writings of Cardinal Henry of Susa, called Hostiensis, a 13th-century canonist. “Apart from public admonition and prayer for divine intervention, (Hostiensis) does not offer a remedy for the (papal) abuse of the fullness of power,” said Cardinal Burke. “If, a member of the faithful believes in conscience that a particular exercise of the fullness of power is sinful and cannot bring his conscience to peace in the matter, ‘the pope must, as a duty, be disobeyed, and the consequences of disobedience be suffered in Christian patience.’”
Cardinal Burke told LifeSiteNews: “I have envisioned such consequences” of resisting the Pope including excommunication. “Yes, the consequences could be very severe,” he said. “One has only to remember how Saint Athanasius, for example, was exiled for defending the truth of the two natures in the one Divine Person of Our Lord.”
Pope Francis and Cardinal Burke.
St. Athanasius was banished five times over his 45-year bishopric for maintaining the truth of the Incarnation fighting the Arian heresy. Under duress, Pope Liberius excommunicated Athanasius for a time.
“Suffering with Christian patience means that one remains faithful to Christ in His holy Catholic Church, even if one suffers at the hands of certain leaders in the Church,” explained Cardinal Burke. “That is what the great saints like Saint Athanasius and Saint John Chrysostom, for example, teach us.”
St. John Chrysostom, who was known for criticizing the abuse of authority of both religious and political leaders, was exiled for years. He died en route to a further banishment. Even in exile, his writings were very influential.
“To suffer with Christian patience means to be concerned ultimately with only one judgment, the judgment of Our Lord, when we appear before him at our death and at the Final Judgment,” concluded Cardinal Burke in his email response to LifeSiteNews.
On May 17-18 life, family, and faith leaders will gather in Rome to strategize on the current crisis in the Vatican at the annual Rome Life Forum. The event will feature two leading voices of faithfulness to Catholic teaching, Cardinal Raymond Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schneider. It will be an opportunity for gathering together faithful from around the world to intercede for the light of the Holy Spirit to guide the Church in this time of great crisis.
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francis should be excommunicated he is an nothing but a liberal islamophile SJW, who hijacked catholicism.
Gee, they planned their Catholic Spring knowing that Hillary would win the election. All they needed was a religious counterpart. Frankie got in but Hillary didn't.
For this we can both laugh and cry.
“Burke has already faced demotion at the hands of Pope Francis but many have wondered what he’d do if the penalty for his resistance to the Pope’s departure from Church teaching would be intensified to excommunication.”
That is a ‘great’ idea, first Pope Francis can excommunicate Cardinal Burke, then all Catholics who don’t like the changes of Vatican II, then all of the Catholics who agree with Cardinal Burke and/or disagree with Pope Francis turning the Catholic Church into a secular humanist/social justice welfare organization. And then he can banish Jesus as well, because Jesus’ makes non-Christians feel uncomfortable.
Please note that the above is said with much sarcasm, but a fear that.......
For those of you “NeverSchism” Catholics, if this actually happens, what will you do? Side with Burke, or stay with Francis’ rump church?
That’s the whole problem I have with your position, because I think this is inevitable.
why do I see a modern-day Reformation coming?
Francis has taken the RC Church off the rails; making what Luther complained about seem like child’s play by comparison, IMO
You have no idea of what my position is.
I'm not sure of the proximate relevance of this question. It may be relevant later, but in the near future, if Cd. Burke were excommunicated, that would not per se be a schism. Not unless Cd. Burke commenced to start another church, which is approx. as likely as Mrs. Don-o doing so. Which is to say, zero.
Perhaps you will want to restate or expand on your question a bit?
I want to know what happens when ISIS bombs Rome and aerosolizes the pope, the cardinals and most of the bishops. What was it Sr. Lucia said?
Surreally enough, the most active opponent of the Papal Magisterium happens to be the pope.
He appears to want to canonize Martin Luther and anathematize the Council of Trent.
It was last time, too.
The pope is the one who ex-communicated Luther.
If the Catholic church had cleaned up its act as Luther challenged, things would have turned out way different but seems that they wanted to hang on to the corruption that caused Luther such problems and get rid of the voice pointing out the problems instead of fixing the problems.
All you traditionalist Catholics who are challenging this pope are no different than Luther. You are concerned and outspoken about what you see as the direction the church is going in.
Those of us looking in from the outside have been warning you all for a few years that this would be coming down the pike, that it wouldn't be long before they ex-communicated you all, too.
As the Reformation and Luther have been raised in the discussions does this thread still warrant the Caucus label?
There was no mention of other faiths.
That’s interesting. So you now claim Luther and the Reformation as Catholic?
For later.
islamophile was mentioned in another post on this thread to which you had no objection.
Islamophile is neither a faith, nor a religion.
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